Shark Shield Users and Sceptics
Article Here - http://www.swellnet.com.au/news/3228-new-video-shows-electronic-shark-shields-don-t-work
Video Here - http://video.adelaidenow.com.au/2288709813/Shark-repellent
Interesting read, general gist is shark shield does nothing to a hungry shark...
although results can be deemed unfair as the regular shark shield user may not be swimming/srfing/diving in tuna oil and flesh..
Heard many things about shark shields i know id never get one and id be wary of surfing around people with em as have heard sharks are intrigued by the electro field and come in closer to check em out putting everyone else in hot water but thats my opinion and im sure at least one of you will disagree.
any success stories / reasons supporting it i would love to hear ? and i dont mean the electric shock you get when you touch the f-in thing as people i know have told me when they wipeout they get eletrocuted aha
hlokk
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Note to self: Dont take tuna
Note to self: Dont take tuna heads when diving next.
First comment: "While I've always been dubious of the shark shields, I question how much a surfer in the water resembles a hunk of bleeding tuna bait... I mean, I would endure a painfully shrieking siren for a few seconds to retrieve $1000, but I wouldn't endure it for a suspicious looking bag that may or may not contain anything at all"
I dont think shark shield say they guarantee it will work, or all of the time, but neither do seatbelts. I figure if a shark wants to eat you (like food in the video), he'll ignore the tingling, but if its curious and wants to nudge up against you with some test bites, it might deter them more often than if you didnt have one. Aint no guarantees, but i'll take reduced likelihood over nothing (and other videos do show it does deter them at least some of the time, as do the people who've used them up north to stop being bitten off while fishing).
One of the comments on swellnet:
1.The tests were conducted in an extreme, unrealistic environment where there's shark cage diving and the water was chummed. It has been demonstrated that chumming changes shark behavior.
2. For the tuna tests the unit was placed within 2-3m, and when SS was ON the length of time doubled from 122 seconds to 244 seconds for the shark to take the bait.
3. Seal decoys were towed behind a boat at 8-10km per hour with a SS ON and suspended at 2 meters and there were NO surface breaches.
4. When the same seal decoys were towed with the SS OFF there were 16 surface breaches. The purpose of Shark Shield is to safely get to shore or a boat in the event of a shark sighting, not to swim with sharks.
carnarvonite
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Recovery
Was on the rescue boat doing the body recovery from the boat vs barge collision off Carnarvon a few years back, the chopper had warned the police divers that there was 3 sharks over the wreck, 1 x 10 footer and 2 x 8 footers before they entered the water.
The crash had happened some 30 hours before and the three bodies were inside the cabin of the boat in 30 foot of water, according to the divers during the debriefing when it was all over, the sharks came to within 20 feet of them and took off once they felt the electrical current then circled at what was a safe distance for them not to get shocked again but didn't leave the scene because of all the leaking body fluids.
The divers need medals and huge wages for what they do and I'm sure they would have had second thought about hopping in the water knowing what awaited them without a shark shield.
scottnofish
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watched a video the other day
of some guys up north doing some test on two differnt brands they had a bait (1/2 a coral trout ) tyed to a shark sheild on a pole with a gopro camera on there aswell ,the black tip sharks seemed to be a little aprehensive about having a nibble but they still had a bite then took of in a hurry ,which was a better result than the other brand that didnt seem to phase the hammer head that came in and chewed on the bait for a while
fishy fingers
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that test was inacurate
as I commented on that thread as the shark shield antennae was curled up and not straight as it would be when worn by a diver, it has an effective range of about 6mtrs when straight but reduced a lot when curled up.
kane
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They aren't always straight
Quite often they are curled around especially when your stuffing around on the bottom.
Gooooone Fishin!
fishy fingers
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Generaly
but they are straightish most of the time and they need to be to get the full range
kane
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Can't say I agree with you
The amount of times I've been whacked by the tail curling around onto myself is ALOT... You can't have a product that only works well when it's perfectly straight, it needs to be able to work no matter what shape it's in with whatever swirling currents that are present at the time.
Gooooone Fishin!
fishy fingers
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I never said perfectly straight
but certainly not tied up in a loop as in that test, it specifically states in the instuctions NOT to tie it up
as it's range is reduced, I've only been zapped by doing a backward roll entry and a couple of times
in the groin whilst looking under ledges.
Paul G
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I have two shark sheilds one
I have two shark sheilds one for jesse and one for myself , Diving the Abrolhos we have seen two sharks and both have not shown any intrest in us just keeped swimming through .The sharksheilds did not make the sharks come in for a closer look.A they didn't get close enough to see if the sheilds had ant effect on them .as for the shock from them harden up .I grab mine through out the dive to make shore its working ,not to bad on the head or over the shoulder tings a bit.
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catch.fish
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Shark Shield
Seems like that article either has a bit of an agenda or the person writing it only watched the video instead of reading the actual scientific report. Have a read of this article it does a much better job of breaking down and explaining the test results:
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/06/20/3529306.ht
I've personally seen the shield work on a big tiger that got really aggressive with me while spearfishing a couple of years ago and the test results are about what I expected. It's a long way from full proof and it's not gonna stop a great white that decides you're food but it has an effect and if that means a great white hesitates and comes for a closer look instead of ambushing me from a distance or decides to give me twice as long to get out of the water before having a bite I think that's a good investment.
Brock O
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I have one
of the older units, purchase in 07, wont dive with out it!!.
Even with the shocks running through my fillings giving me the occasional head sting!!
spinksy
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Bought mine
Based on what a lot of spear fishers in north queensland said about them. They tie them to their floats and say thet work keeping the tigers and bull sharks from taking their catch. Good enough for me. While they probably dont work when a big white is in attack mode they are designed to stop them when investigating. If you get a visit from a big white i bet you wished you had one on...
Daniel Y
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When's the last time a scuba
When's the last time a scuba diver has been attacked by a shark in WA/Australia?
I definitley havent heard of an recent attacks. I wore a shark shield for the first time ever when scuba diving the other day due to uni policies, and I can say that given the cholice i wouldn't wear one on scuba. The zapping and entanglment was quite annoying, and i really dont think a shark is going to attack a scuba diver anyway (well it's unlikley).
Spearfishing on the other hand I would consider it. Spearing is the only time i feel vulnerable to sharks, mainly because you are basically basically a sitting duck on the surface half the time, and you are pretty much berlying the sharks up.
scotto
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Whoops-a-daisy...
Mate, 2 out of the last 5 great white attacks in perth were on scuba divers....
one @ rotto, and one at busselton.....
Daniel Y
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I've heard many reports that
I've heard many reports that say the bloke off rotto was freediving & spearing, not on scuba.
Not sure about the busso one, but i was under the impression he was freediving or decending down the anchor line or something also...
During surface swims, yeah sure a shark will take you, but during the majority of the dive where you are a metre or so from the bottom the whole time I think it's very unlikley you will get taken.
I would potentialy wear a shield during surface swims and when decending then turn it off for the rest of the dive...
till
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The guy up in Carnarvon
The guy up in Carnarvon recently was surfing?
Wedge Island the guy was surfing again.
Laren Lee over east? On scuba.
Mullaloo the guy was on a surf ski.
Stratham Beach the guy was on scuba.
Rotto the guy was on scuba, and checking a fouled anchor
hlokk
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The one at Rotto, George
The one at Rotto, George Wainwright, was scuba diving but I haven't seem any reports about retrieving a stuck anchor. He was spearfishing though (unknown if he had a fish or not though).
scotto
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No. Scuba & scuba...
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/diver-killed-by-shark-off-busselton/story-e6frg13u-1226315174087
And you don't get a "flurry of bubbles" from free diving... Almost 1 year to the day.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/us-diver-killed-by-shark-off-rottnest-20111022-1mdin.html
Daniel Y
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No where in your links does
No where in your links does it mention that the guy in busselton was scuba diving. It says diver.
It appears that the american guy at rotto was probably scuba diving that day, but like i said they were spearfishing also. Was there blood/fish in the water at the time of the attack? Doesn't say. As others mentioned he was likely swimming down to get a snagged anchor. As I said before, this is a time when i do think you would be at risk when diving. Especially if you had just dragged a few bleeding fish on board.
fishy fingers
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dont read newspaper reports
if you want the facts try and find the inquest results, a lot more factual