Daily boat limits for the Gascoyne region
Submitted by Griffo84 on Fri, 2013-04-05 06:17
Good morning all,
Just need to clarify the boat limit for demersal/pelagic species in the gascoyne region. The fisheries pamphlet states a daily mixed demersal bag limit of 5 fish however I highly doubt it if I had 3 people fishing on my boat (with current licenses) we could take a total of 15 demersal species in 1 day. I may have misread the pamphlet somewhere however I can't seem to find the daily boat limit.
Thanks in advance.
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fishy fingers
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It's all here
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/Documents/recreational_fishing/rec_fishing_guide/rules_guide_statewide.pdf
but yes it's 5 demersals plus your
pelagics
sea-kem
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Used to be 7 demersals. 5 is
Used to be 7 demersals. 5 is still a good bag per person if you can manage it.
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Griffo84
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Thanks for the info lads.
Thanks for the info lads.
Do the right thing and there will be fish tomorrow.
Doooma
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Mate, As far as Im aware, if
Mate, As far as Im aware, if you have 3 licensed fishers on board, you can all take your bag limit.
5 demersals each, plus your pelagics, then you can come inclose and bag your 8 tailor!!!
I asked fisheries a few weeks ago this very question, and the guy said to me there wasnt per say.. a boat limit... but individual bag limits... (demersals)
This was specifically for the Gascoyne area!! Im not sure about down south..
Griffo84
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G'day Dooma - Yeah mate
G'day Dooma - Yeah mate that's how interpreted the fisheries pamphlet. It doesn't really seperate the INDIVIDUAL bag limit and the allowable total BOAT limit. The reason I think there may be a difference is because a mate of mine fished exmouth 3 years ago and the individual limit for them used to be 4 per fisherman. He had his mate in the boat and they brought back 8 spango's to Ned's camp and the caretaker told them they had actually exceeded the daily BOAT limit and to be careful next time. Worth asking the fisheries I rekon.
Cheers
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carnarvonite
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Boat limit
There isn't a boat limit, only the individual limits
black gen
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mate as many blokes as you
mate as many blokes as you have on your boat your allowed a mixed bag of 5 demersals, on top of that your allowed 3 pelagics per person. And on top of that there are inshore species which have a total mixed bag limit of 16 (individual limits apply obviously). In that there are parrotfish, tailor, mangrove jack, stripey seaperch to name a few.
The regulations are ridiculous when you do the math on how many fish you can actually take per day (double if you camp out overnight). Noone can seriosuly need that many fish....should have just left it at 7....
Hope that helps
Jess
Griffo84
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Thanks lads that clarifys
Thanks lads that clarifys things.
Yes I agree it is a shite load of fish for anyone to have.
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Rob H
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whats the problem?
you dont have to take 5 fish every day. Some people (most) are lucky to get out every few weeks or less and many dont have the skill or experience to bag out every time they go out.
Comparing the population in the metro area coastline and Gascoyne the actual pressure would be considerably less in an area that is naturally very productive I would think.
Plus with limited launch facilities much of the region is out of reach of rec fishers bar a select few.
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Griffo84
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Rob H- No problem here champ.
Rob H- No problem here champ. Just asking what the legal boat limit is because I want to do the right thing by the law. Just planning ahead that's all.
Do the right thing and there will be fish tomorrow.
Rob H
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all good Griffo, was another
all good Griffo, was another comment I was refrring to
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
black gen
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If it was my comment you
If it was my comment you were referring too,
have you ever been diving in the Gasconye region?
was not overly hard to get your 7
now it's 5....
im not sayin we or any others go out and get there bag every time but mate to be honest it's not overly difficult
Doooma
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Even though it is a sh.tload
Even though it is a sh.tload of fish... Its not much depending on your family you are trying to feed.
I go out with a mate... Im feeding Myself, wife, and 5 kids....
My mate has his wife, and 6 kids!!!!!
So thats 15 people just between the 2 of us fishing...
Ill go out on average 2 to 4 times per month.. blow $200-$300 in juice per trip, and MAYBE catch a feed...
Ive bought home fish once in last 4 trips due to losing everything to sharks.. Doesnt include the 2 rods broken in last month, god knows how many lost rigs and jigs!!! Ice, bait, food, drinks etc... Is getting very expensive...
So Im pretty happy with the current bag limit rules.... except, they took away a pinkie and gave us an extra red emperor.... how many people can honestly get out far enough or deep enough to catch reds?
Now Im not having a winge about the cost..(however reading back I can understand it looks like it
).. only justifying the bag limits are not that exsessive depending on who you are trying to feed..
Hey Griffo, do you live up this way, or are you planning a trip up mate?
Robbo88
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Only 8 weeks to go!!!
Hey Griffo I wouldn't be to concerned about the boat limits, with the crew aboard your tub youll all struggle to catch a cold. On the other hand at least you'll be able to show off the chumps flag around Exmouth!
CAN'T WAIT!!!
Quobbarockhopper
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thought the new regs were
thought the new regs were "fishing rules made simpler"... eh? obviously its working, judging by the amount of these threads popping up lately... :)
But agreed, its a still a heap of fish allowed, but wouldnt be saying that too loudly as no doubt itll be getting scaled back further in the not too distant future...
Griffo84
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Dooma - I'm hearing you about
Dooma - I'm hearing you about the reds! The amount of hours I've spent travelling/looking for ground around Karratha with not much luck...I can see why people are very reluctent to share the coords of their hard earned spots. I can also totally relate to the cost of heading out and catching very little (I guess everyone has those days at times). Myself and Robbo88 went out a week ago from Rockingham about 20 km's out. We spent about $400 buying fuel, bait, drinks, food, quells Ha ha, jigs, oil etc...and caught nothing!! Bloody breaks your spirit a bit but still good to get out on the water.
I live in Mandurah however myself and a few mates are heading to Exy in June for a week. There are 4 boats heading up and it's getting pretty competitive already (You only have to read Robbo's pathetic comment above to get an idea of the banter...Ha ha!!)
Are you living in Exmouth?
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Doooma
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Always good to get out on the
Always good to get out on the water..... no matter the cost!!!
Living in Carnarvon mate... I think you guys will have a blast up in Exxy in June.... Excellent time to be fishing up this way!!!
pale ale
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Cost of trip doesn't bother
Cost of trip doesn't bother me! It is what I want to do with my time so I will pay.
I had a mate who could never afford to go fishing...... "By the time I buy food and drinks etc, the missus will get cranky" WTF, dont you eat or drink when you are at home??????????
I reckon he was too scared to ask his missus for a day out
carnarvonite
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Gassy Sharks
The way the sharks are you will be bloody lucky to get one tally let alone enough for everyone.
A mate started fishing at 0600 a week back and got a good cobia and spangly on the first drop, more than 20 moves later and over a 100 hooks in the next 8 hours and the tally was still two fish for the trip.
Another mate has just got back form an overnighter at the islands with nothing but 6 inch longer arms and a heck of a lot lighter tackle box. He reckons he must have lost 70-80 fish to sharks in the 24 hours he was there and never got to see a keeper.
sea-kem
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Was that in deeper or
Was that in deeper or shallower water John? We've really ever only encountered them in numbers in shallower water 20-30m
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carnarvonite
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Both inside and out
The first one was both inside, starting round the Muck hole then outside the Gap to about 60 metres finishing north of Koks Island
The second one started at Koks and work outside from in close then out to 65 -70 metres then came back in to Hospital bay for the night then roughly the same pattern as the day before till he admitted defeat.
Will have a word to my sons tomorrow and see how they fared over the last 5 days out there on the wetliner
Doooma
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Usually an overnighter at the
Usually an overnighter at the islands would be fishing inside... which is average depth of anywhere from 10 to 25 metres... unless they were in a very large boat!!!
Have to agree with you Sea-kem... Ive lost a LOT of fish to sharks this last few months and youre spot on the money.... most of my fishing was between
15 - 25m..
Jarrod
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Sorry drag this up again
Hi all,
I'm sorry to drag this up again, but this is the most recent discussion I've found on this topic, but......it still doesn't make sense to me (I would like to think I'm smart enough to understand this). The fisheries pamphlet says that "a boat limit is the maximum number of fish of a species or group of species that may be on a boat or attached to a boat at any one time. On day trips in powered boats, there must be two or more RFLB holders on board to take the boat limit."
The confusing thing is that for every list of finfish, there is only the mention of the total/mixed "daily bag limit per fisher". The regs say that there is a boat limit, but doesn't tell me what it is - only that I have to have at least two licensed fishers on board in order to keep that many fish. How do I know if I'm within the boat limit if they can't tell me how many fish that is?
I feel a bit stupid in bringing this up again, but I have a feeling that I'm not alone in my confusion.
black gen
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mate...its simplethere is NO
mate...its simple
there is NO boat limit in gascoyne region
only a mixed bag limit of 5 per person with each fish havn its own bag
simple
Jarrod
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Ok. Cheers.
How about the west coast bioregion? I'm never going to need to actually know that (don't catch enough in metro), but that seems just as confusing.(happy to start another thread on the WCB if need be).
sea-kem
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From memory the only boat
From memory the only boat limit fish are Dhuies, crabs and Squid.There might be others but they are the ones that come to mind. I went through this excersize myself Jarrod after I was accused of taking over the limit. But to my Joy I had it right and on a couple of occasions actually shortchanged myself. If you are a memeber of RecfishWest they are only too happy to help clarify, that's what I did in the end.
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Jarrod
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Thanks sea-kem, I might have
Thanks sea-kem, I might have to go through them. I was a member a while back. We'll see.
MattMiller
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Boat limits
are -
2 Dhufish
40 Blue Swimmer crabs, (20) for west coast
10 Mud Crabs
24 Rock Lobsters
10 Greenlip Abalone
30 Cephalopods (squid, Cuttlefish Octopus combined)
These combinations are made up by having 2 RFBL holders on board (or 3 in the case of Rock Lobsters) with appropriate licensing.
Thats it, everything else is just daily bag limits only restricted by how many RFBL holders are on board.
In your case 5 demersals x no. of RFBL's + 3 pelagics x no. of RFBL's +16 near shore/estuarine x no. of RFBL's etc. etc. etc.
Very simple IMO