Transporting whole fish
Submitted by stricko on Sun, 2025-07-27 17:32
Just noticed in the new fisheries guide and it's high lighted .when travelling between bioregions if the fish in your possession includes whole fish the bag limit for the bioregion where you are located applies. So only 4 dermersals in the west coast zone regardless of where they were caught. What about when the demersal closure is on.oh and thanks rec fish west for making the 10kg limit state wide when the fisheries only proposed doing it in the west coast zone.
Rob H
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I think it means when
I think it means when transporting by boat?
Such as catching a pinkies and steaming into inner gulfs of Shark Bay, catching in one zone and landing them in the next one (West Coast/South Coast etc)
It certainly is poorly worded as once your fish are landed, "bag limits" are no longer relevant, only possession limits?
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Reefsta
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Likely transport at sea, not once landed.
I agree, the language is poor and confusing. The same language about transporting was used about crays. The wording said you couldn't transport cray tails. But in the end I figured they meant at sea, not once landed.
Rob H
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Yes, you can now transport
Yes, you can now transport cray tails on land, changed a couple years back now.
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piscetor
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cray transport?
I asked fisheries at the ramp about this. If my mate and i pulled the pots and got our eight crays each what would happen if he said he didn't want all his and gave me four. That would mean i had 12 in the boat. If i was pulled over by fisheries up the road i would have over my bag limit. They said no it would be alright as the extra 4 were given to meafter landing at the ramp. But how do they really know he did give them to me .evenwith a phone call he could say anything but he could also be telling a back up story we set up. I donot trust a word fisheries say. i reckon the would book you for over the bag limit.
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Rob H
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They have to prove you
They have to prove you didn't catch them all, however we know in the past they have a propensity to "guilty until proven innocent".
Once they are landed you don't even need a licence to transport them, if you give them to someone else unlicenced.
They need to at least have some evidence you are lying such as a witness, footage of you landing alone etc
Personally (and in person) I have found officers more than accomodating on those sorts of scores.
Where they are let down is upper management who have no practical fisheries management skills, career beaurocrats
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stricko
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Fisheries reply
Just got a reply back from fisheries and they confirmed that yes you can only have 4 whole demersal fish in your possession in the west coast zone regardless of where they were caught. Have also heard rec fish were verbally told this wasn't the case when they in there great wisdom reduced the demersal fillet limit from 20kg to 10kg considering these clowns are supposed to be representative of us rec fishers I find that a very bitter pill to swallow
Breaksea
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Possession limits
What is the issue with the possession limits?
10kg fillets plus a day's bag, or 10kg fillets demersal and 10kg fillets Pelagic/skin-on, or 2 days bag per person seems to be reasonable.
There is still a big problem with the small percentage of metro fishers who are travelling freezer-fillers.
See it down here all the time.
It's not the average holiday-makers/tourism-fishermen who are the problem, it's the 3 boat 9-12 person crews who come down on a regular basis to rape the inshore demersal spots on weekends during metro closed season. It is having a noticeable effect in the waters near my local little beach launch spot.
(They don't even seem to enjoy the fishing - just treat it as a bag-filling job.)
sea-kem
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You know me and my crew are
You know me and my crew are beside ourselves all year for the anticipation of our yearly fishing trip up north.
Spending mega bucks on fishing gear, food , accomodation and a pallet load of piss
Praying to a god I don't belive in that we get at least a few days of good boating weather.
We dream of landing bucket list fish and bringing home quality fillets that I love handing out to good friends and of course for my family.
Your comments just don't make sense because literally every crew I've run into at Gnaraloo are there for exactly the same reasons as us.
Good mates, fanatstic fishing , drinking a few bevvies with no nagging wives and hopefully taking fish home.
Just remember those crews that come down your way where ever you are are feeding your town's economy.
Love the West!
Rob H
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agree 100% Andy
agree 100% Andy
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stricko
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It's a shame that when
It's a shame that when people going fishing to feed themselves and family with fish they could never be able to afford to buy are called freezer fillers I've had people question me for vac packing fillets. We all know it costs way more to catch our own in the long run but if that's what you love to do so be it.seems it's mostly people that live in the regions where catch and possession limits don't effect them as much are the ones who bag the people who travel 1000ks plus spending money in their towns along the way.
stricko
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Can see why you don't have a
Can see why you don't have a issue with the possession limits is because your limits in the southern zone are not 4 demersal but 26 counting the 16 nanagie I'm used to taking my fish from extended trips home hole because quality fish fills the 10kg fillets slot with in a few fish.
Breaksea
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Not the average holiday fishermen
Sea Kem, as I said,
It's not the average holiday-makers/tourism-fishermen who are the problem, it's the 3 boat 9-12 person crews who come down on a regular basis to rape the inshore demersal spots on weekends during metro closed season.
If it was a holidaying crew like yours then no problem - If you saw these guys, how they behave, what they are keeping in their "bags" (certainly not quality sizes), and where/how they were fishing, then you would be shaking your head in disbelief too.
(They are not like a Gnaraloo or Coral Bay crew on an annual holiday)
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I hear you, always a few
I hear you, always a few clowns amongst the good lads.
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