capel shire beach access review
some of you may be aware of the private landholders who own beachland within the capel shire , that they have recently closed the vehicle acces to that beach for the public ...effectively closing the beach between peppy grove and forrest beach ...to the vast majority of rec fishers
now The Shire of Capel is undertaking a review of beach access and has released a discussion paper which details various issues and access considerations which will affect different user groups (i.e. permission or prohibition for vehicles, horses, commercial fishers, dogs).
A copy of this discussion paper is attached. The comment period closes on Friday 8 April 2011. The Shire has an online submission survey on its website which allows stakeholders a very simple way of providing input. The discussion paper and related maps can also be found on their website towards the bottom of the webpage below:
http://www.capel.wa.gov.au/COUNCIL/CommunityConsultation.aspx
Please forward this information (link) through your networks to anyone you think might be interested in providing comment to the Shire or recfishwest to include in our submission on this issue.
Please return any specific comments you may have for inclusion into a Recfishwest submission by Friday 1st April to recfishwest or pm me direct
We will notify members direct of their chance to provide comment on this issue.
if you have five minutes spare ...use the link to add your comments /opinions ..and mail it on ....
hezzy
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Faulkner Family
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how can private land owners
how can private land owners own a part of the beach. all beaches should be open to all public. hope they open it up again for all those that fish that stretch
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
grantarctic1
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Not good
It seems this type of senario keeps raising its ulgly head. I have tried to keep out of topic's like this but WHAT THA...
In my opinion no one in australia should be able to own any beach or river frontage.
It is all common land and should be open to all the public who respect it....
allrounder
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The land owners dont own the beach
they have stopped access to the tracks to the beach.There are only a couple of families that have custodian ownership over pieces of beach.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
hezzy
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...the shire as i understand
...the shire as i understand it from their representative has had landcorp check the survey boundaries of the titles of the landowners concerned and under the very old original titles that they hold, several generations within the same family, ... dating back into the 1800s , they do in fact actually own the beach even into the water at some places
hence their legal right to close the beach, with fences to the public if they choose, currently they have only closed it to vehicles via the complete fence off
if they were to sell, the titles would revert back to the current regulations above the high water mark etc
hezzy
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evil flourishes when good men do nothing
allrounder
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The ones that are held all the way into the water
(of which my relatives are one) date back to being gifted by the queen.Did they close it down to stop the occasional rif raf that make a mess or because they just want to be pains in the ass.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
shammy
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Date Joined: 03/07/09
beach ownership
Well on this one I've got to say that if they have had it in the family for that long, it's theirs....... don't like it tough!!!! I'm going to write in to support the property owners.
If any of you wish to see the caring sharing mess many many "fishos" leave behind, have a look at any of the groynes around the coast, these have been turned into stinking fly infested rubbish tips.
When in Kalbarri and beach fishing, I regularly clean up Wittecarra due to the "fishos" who leave line, bait bags, razor shap cans and can lids half buried in the sand etc.
The DEC decided to close off all the tracks in this area with pine logs and ringlock fencing, due to the number of trail bike tracks, despite there being 36000km of coast (61000km if you include the islands) of which we actually use only a small percent.
So why should a family that has been granted something not pass on that inheritance or are we going to do another "Clunies Ross", as did the Federal Government a few years ago.
I've seen the idiots tear assing up and down the beach where young kids playing in the sand ....reckless behaviour in their flash fourbies drinking and making complete ass holes of themselves.
So I'm all for these people closing it down, have a look at what some ass holes did for the rest of us at Wagoe beach, wrecking stock water, camping at the mill, and threatening the property owner, so the dick heads wrecked it for the rest of the population.
IF some one works hard and purchases the property it is theirs.... good on em.
Maybe the dickheads will be forced to drive in ever decreasing circles until they disappear up their own ass holes.... and leave the rest of the public to get on with it.
cheers,
"Life wasn't meant to be a spectator sport"
Little_Richo
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Here Here
Very good points Shammy and I have to agree with you. It is incredibly disheartening when you see our beautiful country tarnished by disrespectful people leaving their rubbish everywhere.
My family travels to Walpole every January and the last couple of years we have bumped into a local fisherman who has lived there for as long as I can remember. Every time we walk back past where he has been fishing we see that he has left bait bags/containers, line, etc and we have obviously cleaned it up but it just goes to show the kinds of people that are out there. To polute your small home town seems a bit careless and selfish to me. We actually thought about putting it in his letterbox with a note saying something along the lines of "Leave something behing?".
carnarvonite
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Emu Springs
Years back we used to fish a spot about 20 miles east of Augusta where you had to get permission from the owner to get the key to travel through their farm to access the beach. Absolutely a magic part of the coast. Then some dickheads got in and shot up the cattle and stuffed it for everyone. Gate shut, end of story
On each trip down there we would make a point of cleaning not only our camp site be it on the beach or over the back of the sandhills plus any other rubbish laying around.
Caught some beautiful tailor, silver bream , mulloway and sharks with most coming from during daylight hours.
If the chance came about for another trip in there I'd be down in a shot, especially after the first BIG southerly buster of winter to collect paper nautilas shells as they come up on the beach
squidder
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Warnings and Infringements
It's always a few that Stuff it up for the majority.
Rangers, dressed up procrastinators, need to get off their arses and book the hell out of the infringers.
Very unfair on the good majority.
And Yo-shammity I feel you should go down there with the gun's your toting and shoot em up
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