Jigging help

Am noob at jigging and am seeking some help. I got a 200g. 150 and 120 g jigs, all with plain assists no skirts, i use a little rovex altus lw20 combo(not the best of them but im 14, and i dont have a boat, only use it when im out on a mates boat), i do the jigging --> lift drop lift drop etc, winding as fast as i can during that. And i get no hits, nothing, havent really tried that much but im wondering what im doing worng, o and i usuually use them in between 30-50m of water, for demersals and sambos.

 

What should i be doing?, Do i need skirted assists? and should i jig alll the way up from 50m or just a bit up then drop it back down? Should i rig with the assists at the top or the bottom? (One of my jigs if rigged so the assists at the bottom will sway side to side when going down)

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Im no expert mate but all my

Mon, 2013-03-11 17:26

Im no expert mate but all my jigs have the hooks rigged at the top,as for jigging action I wind and lift plus whip the rod a few times inbetween if Its a bay rubber/lucinius jigs it gets put in the rod holder and the boat action does the work maybe some of the hardcore jiggers can give you more advice

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No expert either , but if

Mon, 2013-03-11 20:18

No expert either , but if money is an issue , I'd try and get a good proven jig in 100 grams (e.g caprice/fanky)

Skirt on assist can certainly help .

I run 40lb fluro leader

You don't need a fast jigging action for bottom fish, mix it up a bit , pause it , let it hit the bottom and lie there for a few secs ( unless in heavy reef)

I jig the bottom 5 meters, then back down to bottom.

One or two hooks from top of jig , sitting half way down the jig at rest.

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I'm new to jigging too but

Mon, 2013-03-11 18:37

I'm new to jigging too but the most important thing I've been told with demersals is its not all about the jigging up action but more the fluttering down action the jig naturally does determined by the shape of the jig.

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yea right, ill buy 2 skirted

Mon, 2013-03-11 18:55

yea right, ill buy 2 skirted assists, one on the op one on the bottom, and fish it with the heavier side on top so it flutter down, i think the 2 jigs (120 and 150grams are more knife jigs for sambos, though i seem to see a large numer of demersals taken on knife type jigs on this site.

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Try working your jig slower,

Mon, 2013-03-11 19:27

Try working your jig slower, a few long lifts and let the jig flutter back to the bottom. Only need to work the bottom 10 meters if you're chasing demersals but if you're after sambos work it all the way to the top FAST!

As grayzee said maybe buy yourself a 100gram Fanky if you can find them and rig the assist/skirt at the top, always a good chance!

 

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I think the flutter down is

Mon, 2013-03-11 21:37

I think the flutter down is the key...  you dont want a jig that is so heavy it plumets to the bottom.  go as light as you can to get to the bottom.  cast out in front of your drift so the jig has time to sink as the boat drifts towards it.  the lighter the jig the better, if it can get down into the strike zone.  i have had success on daiwa pirates and lamble bait haouli (?) half hitch jig, generally orange in colour.  you will need to save your pocket money or do some extra jobs around the house to afford them.  speak to the guys at campbells protackle, oceanside tackle or all boat business, depending on where you live.  and hey, i am 48 and earn a good wage and i still have to lay by the good stuff!

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 Sorry to hi-jack but it may

Mon, 2013-03-11 21:40

 Sorry to hi-jack but it may help the op aswell... What size hooks are people running on their small jigs? I.e. 60g metals?

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small seems to work really

Mon, 2013-03-11 21:43

small seems to work really well.  much smaller than if you are baiting up...

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Tue, 2013-03-12 09:02

Hi mate, You dont need to spend a small fortune to get into jigging. For the depths that your fishing generally 80-150g jigs will do very well. As for technique it can have slight variations for each jig. For myself I find that lots of short sharp twitches of about 20-30cm with the rod tip and retrieving generally only quater to half a turn of the handle each jig works very well. Mix this with pauses and the occasional high lift and drop and you will be on your way. As for assist hooks both singles and doubles work well its just a personal prefference as to what you use. Do you need squid skirts on your assist to get hits? The answer is no, BUT it will help get hits from lazy or sometimes more finicky fish like Baldchin Groper. When jigging just cover the bottom 5-10m and your in demersal country. Lastly invest in some good Fluro Carbon leader. Anything between 40-60lb is good. It does cost more than standard leader, But because of its transparency it will help get you hits!

If you need any more help feel free to PM the shop or drop past the shop and say hi and we all jig so more than happy to help.

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 Jigging technique does make

Tue, 2013-03-12 10:13

 Jigging technique does make a difference but it’s not that critical, every jig works differently also as many have said the flutter is important BUT only for jigs intended to flutter. Many, and one of my favourites the lamble F2 actually gets all its action on the way up and there for the majority of its hits on the lift. There is heaps on youtube and on here that gives tips. Also although the jig and action is important it’s much more important that you’re actually on fish, if your mates on bait are regularly pulling fish then fair enough but if you’re not you can’t expect a jig to magically turn up good fish. I had a nice pinky eat a stationary jig on Sunday after untangling a wrapped tip so goes to show it’s not all about the action.

Head into Oceanside and grab a few of their jigs and talk to the boys about how to work, there’s really not that much to it.

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thanks guys, will save up

Tue, 2013-03-12 17:48

thanks guys, will save up some dosh from this weekends jobs and try and get into oceanside sometime soon, and get some skirted assists, and maybe a daiwa pirates or lamble bait haouli. But ive already got 1 knive jig and 2 flutter/sied-side jigs with the weight at the top rath than bottom.Which is what i think makes em flutter.

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Fishing and catching are two different things. But i want to learn how to catch.