You can see water pushing out from under the flare meaning the fine entry is pushing in hard. It is effectively a pressure wave there, swell pushing into a strong outgoing tide. Two waves very close together and a long boat. This is not a normal ocean swell scenario. He slows, and then the breaking pressure behind just keeps pushing him down, the cc setup just gives him a big wide scoop, the moment that lip takes water he is done for. That inlet(Jupiter) gets a lot of mentions on THT. Backstory was apparently that he was a local pro, and had a full fishbox up the front. If you look at the sea as he is floundering around, it has calmed right off. You can have an element of luck in this, a few moments later and there would have been no issues.
it would be good to see the whole incident from a slightly elevated postion, instead of directly above.
id tend to agree about the esky up front , looking at the video it does not seem to ''float up ''like the other smaller ones
he does seem to have wrong weight distribution up front as well as open bow when she dips down into that crest ..everything pivots from the bow section very quickly as she goes under
This has always been one of my concerns with centre consoles and bowroders....they effectively becomes big water scoops if the bow digs in.......not fun.
Yep well if ya can't drive then maybe you should stay in the river. I've had open boats my whole life , drive to conditions, set the boat up correctly and never under estimate the ocean no problems. Most worried I've ever been was off the capes in a building northerly and big swell and that was in a 6.5 Dolphin ally fwd cockpit.
Perhaps if he accelerated, but still risked digging in to the pressure wave. I suspect he didn't look back as he was concentrating on the wave in front and not the one following.
Amazing how quickly the front just swamped.
That there doesn't appear to be any in built floatation devices in that boat. To me the eskies and other boxes should have been placed behind the CC to add some benefit to keeping the bow up and trimming the boat for a following sea.
Coming in, in such conditions make it imperative that the boat is setup and balanced for out going tide incoming sea conditions.
That was my thoughts exactly John, he should have backed off and rode the back of that wave and he would have been sweet witha bit of trim on the motors.
...and not get caught by yhr following one. But pressure waves like that on a strong outgoing tide tend to really bunch up, not like normal breaking waves.
At the cut in Bunno will sometimes result in standing waves that you have no choice but to ride through on the way in, bow up trim, ready hand on the throttle and keep an eye out behind you. That boat looked like it had already taken on water that surged forward.
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river boat doesn't help
dodgy
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Ran out of flare
Ran out of flare
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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Low
How low is that in the water, its like its already half full of water or something
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ranmar850
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Look at it as he slows
You can see water pushing out from under the flare meaning the fine entry is pushing in hard. It is effectively a pressure wave there, swell pushing into a strong outgoing tide. Two waves very close together and a long boat. This is not a normal ocean swell scenario. He slows, and then the breaking pressure behind just keeps pushing him down, the cc setup just gives him a big wide scoop, the moment that lip takes water he is done for. That inlet(Jupiter) gets a lot of mentions on THT. Backstory was apparently that he was a local pro, and had a full fishbox up the front. If you look at the sea as he is floundering around, it has calmed right off. You can have an element of luck in this, a few moments later and there would have been no issues.
it would be good to see the whole incident from a slightly elevated postion, instead of directly above.
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ranmar id tend to agree
ranmar
id tend to agree about the esky up front , looking at the video it does not seem to ''float up ''like the other smaller ones
he does seem to have wrong weight distribution up front as well as open bow when she dips down into that crest ..everything pivots from the bow section very quickly as she goes under
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JohnF
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This has always been one of
This has always been one of my concerns with centre consoles and bowroders....they effectively becomes big water scoops if the bow digs in.......not fun.
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ranmar850
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Those Western Whalers...
Terrify me for just that reason. Whole front of the boat is one long, low, wide scoop.
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only problem with centre consoles and
bowriders should be kept in the river imo
wont catch em sitting at home!
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Yep well if ya can't drive
Yep well if ya can't drive then maybe you should stay in the river. I've had open boats my whole life , drive to conditions, set the boat up correctly and never under estimate the ocean no problems. Most worried I've ever been was off the capes in a building northerly and big swell and that was in a 6.5 Dolphin ally fwd cockpit.
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crasny1
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cant see how he could have avoided that
Perhaps if he accelerated, but still risked digging in to the pressure wave. I suspect he didn't look back as he was concentrating on the wave in front and not the one following.
Amazing how quickly the front just swamped.
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No positive floation on that
No positive floation on that model?
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I find it a bit strange
That there doesn't appear to be any in built floatation devices in that boat. To me the eskies and other boxes should have been placed behind the CC to add some benefit to keeping the bow up and trimming the boat for a following sea.
Coming in, in such conditions make it imperative that the boat is setup and balanced for out going tide incoming sea conditions.
carnarvonite
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One mistake
He made one major mistake and that was to push through the back of the wave and not throttle back and sit on the back of it.
Once he push through the wave it caught up, lifted the stern and pushed the bow down and it all turned to shirt very quickly
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That was my thoughts exactly
That was my thoughts exactly John, he should have backed off and rode the back of that wave and he would have been sweet witha bit of trim on the motors.
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ranmar850
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Yes, you should always try to stay behind
...and not get caught by yhr following one. But pressure waves like that on a strong outgoing tide tend to really bunch up, not like normal breaking waves.
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Outgoing tide against a westerly swell