List your Dangerous fish in WA
Hi Crew,
Quan just sent me a PM with a great idea for a forum thread, so I thought I'd put it up and see where it went. The idea is to post up any pictures or info you have on fish in Western Australia, even Australia for that matter which could be considered as dangerous, painful or something to note when handling/filleting a certain fish.
One example is Coral Trout, the top dorsal spines carry a toxin that infects the area under the skin and causes it to puss up and be rather uncomfortable for a few days. (the other spikes may have it as well, but I've only experienced the top dorsal spike) Generally when you spike yourself its on the fingers or under the finger nails and can cause a lot of discomfort when fishing a few days in a row and something touches it. (Much more painful than your typical niks and cuts)
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Colin Hay
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My most painful experience
Came from a cobbler I caught at Mindarie one night. The worst thing was I had just got through explaining to my daughter how dangerous their spines were. I don't know what was more painful, the sting or looking like an idiot in front of my daughter,
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7739ian
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Barracuda
mate of mine lost a finger tip years ago when the bonnet of a Plymouth Barracuda slipped. Thats true too - might have been Studebaker but doesn't work as well. Stonefish perhaps - i remember a schoolmate of my brother stood on one at Pretty Pool in Hedland - no lasting damage but he was in so much pain for hours even after treatment.
hlokk
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Western scorpion
Western scorpion cod
Flatheads to some degree
Lionfish (various species)
Stonefish
Toadfish
Happy moments fish
Marlins
Mackie teeth look pretty dangereous if you get a bit too close
Fish with cigateura or high levels of mercury
Sharks are fish too remember ;)
Dhufish are some of the worst though. I hear they can strip your wallet and free time pretty quickly, lol
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tailor marc
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Im sure yellow tail grunter
Im sure yellow tail grunter have a form of toxin. They hurt for hours after being pricked
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Colin Hay
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You're right Marc
They are painful.
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7739ian
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pinks?
i skewered my finger on a Pink fin a couple of weeks ago and the pain kept me awake all night - blew up like a boil and hurt for 3-4 days.Maybe a bit of fin spine broke off - don't know but i will be aware from now on.
carnarvonite
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Ones to Watch
The usual ones ,cobbler,catfish,stingrays etc--have been got by small stingray through thumb and in foot by cobbler ,thank heavens for piss [not canned type] and hot hot water.
The others
1 - Red snapper--extra sharp gill plates
2 -Carpet sharks --only one that can bite beyond its own tail and "play dead" on the deck for ages only to snap at whatever comes near.
3 -the usual sharks/macks with lots of teeth
4 - gurnards,lionfish stonefish ,flatheads as well as the boar fish for the painful spines.
5 - and two for the pot pullers -crayfish poisoning from the scratches one receives from handling them without gloves and the numbfish--you do not see many of these but if you have had a boot off one you will remember what they look like for life
The rest most fishers like us are aware of or should be
wadetolley
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fish that hurt
Worked on the trawlers for a while. When we used to sort the catch we would wear a pair of woolen gloves and a pair of rubber gloves over the top of that, to stop getting spiked.
I remember on my first trip ....and in the first hour ...i got spiked by a small catfish only about 5cm long. It was only 5 mis later..i started to feel pasty and sweating like a whore at church..after an hour i came around after the toxins were passing through my body.
After that i was shitting myself..as the boys were rattling of list of fish that will kill you and cause you greif. They grabbed a stonefish one day and pushed a pastic bag down on top of it and showed me the poison squirt out,,it was heaps....and made me repect them big time.
Later in the trip one of the boys got spiked by a bullrouter..and ive never seen someone in so much pain..so thats one to look out for. Also on another trip we had a small bag of prawns fall on a deckie..the poor bugger..didnt get hurt by the weight..but was cook as a dog from the 100 or so prawn spikes in his body..he had to go to hostpital for a week.
Anyway with my experiance with everything in the ocean,,if it has a spike it will hurt..its just how much..you will just find out, in a matter of time!
HuggyB
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cobbler
they don't tickle. thats the only one I've had.
The Terrorist - coming to a fishing spot near you.........
Salmo
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baby stingrays
Got hit on the ankle by a baby stingray years ago... tangled in the net when I worked on a seine boat... the others boys convinced me that them all weeing on it would take the pain away.....lets say that the weird warm feeling did feel strangely good.....
suprises me that there isnt more reports on stonefish bites.....exmouth gulf is FULL of them
SPESS
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hahahahahhha salmo! Stuffed
hahahahahhha salmo! Stuffed if id let someone piss on me! How fuuny it is it deffently works.
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diji
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The worst fish are the one's
Tackle shop salesman sell you gear to catch them with.they can get you divorced and bankrupt.Lol!
STAAL LOVER
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Nephew got spined by one of
Nephew got spined by one of these?? Hurt for a week!!! Want to see him head to the other side of the boat when you bring one up LOL!!!!!!
Apparently good eating !!! But cut all spines off before filleting!!!
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Faulkner Family
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they are
nice eating if you get them big enough,but you got to watch the spines,got a scratch from 1 and it hurt for a couple of days .couldnt imagine what it would feel like if the spine went right in
RUSS & SANDY
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fisherking
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What is it?? i caught one
What is it?? i caught one a few weeks back.
I'm sure I'll catch a biggy oneday.
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Daisy
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Easily the most dangerous
Easily the most dangerous fish I have to contend with is the Barramundi, it has a most toxic effect on my marriage, going away for days or sometimes weeks on end while the grass grows and no one to take out the rubbish. Does anyone know of any cures for this envenomation as I'm certainly noy interested in prevention :-P
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Dreamweaver
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Lol Daisy.... Stingrays
Yes, many years ago, coped a stingray barb in the inside right ankle, we had a forst aid kit, oured raw mecuricomb (sp) hurt like hell, but 5 mins later, two band aids and I was back skindiving. Same thing with my younger bro, nothing to put on it and he cried for 30 mins whilst we swam the boat back from lancelin island (long story).
Beware! The tail can come up over the back! I KNow!
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PilbaraBrad
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agree mick, but on a serious
agree mick, but on a serious note, razor sharp gill rakers and dorsal spike, ouch!
Be carefull handling these ones
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Daisy 1 Cure i know
Daisy
1 Cure i know of.
Take the missus out, make it look like an accident ;)
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Pulling
in sea anchor, Bob next minute F@#@!k get the brown vinegar, blue bottle wrapped around sea anchor rope, had to clean rope and after that he kept his gloves on,, got to the ramp (Leeman) luckily I had slacks on, hopped out of boat, blue bottles everywhere, I was lucky. Bob's also stood on cobble.
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jersey
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First Aid
Hi, after reading some of the comments I would not mind and insurance cover on some of you, as most marine creatures have a high protine sting,cobbler,stink rays ,happy moments ect hot water will give almost immediate reliefe from the sting and painand also relieve the swelling,place the affected area in as hot water as can be applied without scalding the skin ,this will ;A help bleeding,(cleans the wound) B;reducees the swelling,(I have seen a persons hand after a stingray spine got him swell to 4 times its normal and you would think the skin would burst) start to go back to its normal size, C; the hat water reducecs the protine in the poision, Hot water in general terms will aid anyone stung by a fish and as long as it does not cuase burning to the skin it wont hurt,allways see a Doctor in case of infection any way as the intugment (fish skin) or the spine itselfe may have all sorts a crape on it so its best to get it cleaned up,
For ost other cases,particularly if I go North,i wallways takea bottle of Chloro hexidine glutonate,it is hospital grade cleaning solution and is about all that will kill coral polyps and fish infected hands and fingers type skin sores hope this helps,best way is dont get stung?
jersey
mitch
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hey jersey ive never heard
hey jersey ive never heard of the above mate .whats this chloro stuff mate ,sounds like your in the know .wouldnt mind a bit more imfo as im often camnping out with mates .is it just ahigh grade antaseptic or are there healing things or PAIN numbing things about it ??????
cheers mitch
edit yeah hospital grade cleaning product
always in it just the depth that varies
Salmo
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sea ulcer
Yeh got to get the wound clean.....I ended up with a sea ulcer from my stingray jab.....partically healled up....then scab fell out and I had a huge hole.....took about 3 months to heal.....but that wasnt the end of it
about 6 months later broke out in little ulcers all over BOTH legs......the doc recon I had the bug in my blood....took another few months to heal them up.
I currently have a nice one on my foot after cutting it on the reef at Mackerel Islands.....need attention
uncle
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spaniards
Iv'e seen more dmage done by spaniards then any other fish,even dead ones being dropped etc,seen a few trips cut short or time lost getting medical help from these boys
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UncutTriggerInWA
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Cobbler and Electric Eels
I used to surf almost from dawn to dusk and I can't remember now how many times I have stood on a cobbler. It must have been at least 4 times if not more. Those bastards really make you ill and the longer it takes to get treatment the worse it gets.
The deckies will know how painfull those friggin electric eels can be when the craypot hits the tipper and you just happen to be leaning on it!!!!
Cheers, Vince
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bod
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cobbler
not my experience thankfully but i have seen grown men cry from cobbler stings.
I have memory of a fisherman in Peaceful Bay getting the full barb down his thumbnail and being taken to the doctor who then stuck a pain killing needle into the barb hole down the length of the thumbnail. Sometimes there's just no choice...
jersey
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For Mitch
Yes Mitch,it is pronounced,Chlorohxadin,glutonate,(my spelling is S:::) and can be bought from the chemist,comes in a plastic bottle,around$15.00 and is recomended by
the Royal QAustralian navy in a book titeld Diving,& Subaqatic medicine,it is as I said,hospital strenght,anti septic,and you dilute it in a water,it is the only stuff that is known to kill coral polyps if a person gets cut/scratched,what happense is the polyps being a living agent can keep growing(Festuring) in the wound and that is the problem,but as it is an anti septic ,use it in any other wounds,I suggest you also carry Betadine,also from chemist both in gell or liquid form,keeps the wound clean also,and great aid in stopping infection,the old stop gape if it is a good open wound is ,catch a fly,get it to lay its eggs,(magots) in the wound they will only eat dead tissue,so they keep the wound clean,trick is finding and catching a preganent fly
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7739ian
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Bloody Coral
I was washed off my feet on a reef at Cape Keraudren nearly 40 years ago - bad coral cuts to the right hand and knee. It is only in the last few years the scars on my handed faded and they ceased becoming inflamed every few months.
jersey
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Bloody right
Yes 7739 Ian,As I said,the polyps are a living creature,andone of the problems you get is that they can and as you found,do,keep on going,but in all honesty,and I swear by it from personal use both in recieving ant administering,Chlro Hexidan Glutomate, about the only think I know of that works,but it a fastastic medi kit item and will also do the world of good for those fish cuts ,skratches ,and nics we all get,the only real down side to using it,no sting,I like my patients to remember the occassion,I'm a good hand with a needle and thread too,not neat just good
jersey
rainbow
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more pricks than a dart board.
In my youth when in the Canaries I swam out to reef barrier across a bay. Was so glad to climb on it I took no precautions & a sea urchins spines broke off on the inside of my foot. Bloody painful! It took months to get rid of them & years for the dye from them to fade away.
Dont know if you have them in WA?
I`d rather be fishin`!!!
tailor marc
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I dont know excty what it
I dont know excty what it was but some form of jelly fish 80mile offshore at dampier. I was reeling in and some of the jelly fish tentical was stuck to my line and stung my finger. Sore as all day and left a nice scar!
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Stevef
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Minor I know, but I got a
Minor I know, but I got a jab from a little flattie a couple of weeks ago and it hurt like a bastard. It felt like my hand had been put into a bucket of hot water. This was only just a quick jab so I shudder to think how bad something like a spike from a Gurnard, Happy Moments etc might feel like.
jersey
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Sea Urchins
Hi Rainbow,Yes the spine from the sea urchine is a sweet heart,the problem is with the ones we get here abouts (mouve in colure) and spiny as all hell is that the spines are segmented,by this if you get a spine and try to pull it out it breaks at the next section,and so on I have had a couple over the years and agree they are a pain,bet I found was to let it get pusy (festure) and get it out with the crap,better still,try not to get spinned,by the way,our New Zealand brothers,(stat u bro) call them kinnas and love eating the inside row,its not bad,but a nice steak is better.
jersey
harro
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lol
been stung by a gunard, bitten by a pike and now an eel,
had my face mask mauled by a cuttlefish diving..
and electrocuted by my own s/shield..lol
had 5 blue bottles stuck around my neck..
stepped on an angelshark, (bit my fin)
chased out of a cave by an 7fy wobby,,lol but still managed to steal its dinner,,lol
handfull o.crays..
almost went head to head with a large b-cuda diving..
and had a fat seal grab my foot..
the price we pay..lolol
i,m gonna dive with grenades and a pump action from now on..lol
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