Dhuie's per Boat
Submitted by fishmad69 on Sat, 2012-12-15 15:30
Hi Guys
I heard a rumour a while back that Fisheries were going to up the Dhuie limit per boat to 3. Does anyone else know anything about this or was I just dreaming and hoping?
Any info appreciated
Cheerss
Justo82
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I thought it was 2 per boat
I thought it was 2 per boat
Justo82
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Sorry. Just re read your
Sorry. Just re read your post. I hope you're right.
cudbfishn
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Ive heard the limits are
Ive heard the limits are being reviewed for 2013 but wont be till like feb if any changes are made.
wagyl
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previously mentioned
Possibly in Jan http://fishwrecked.com/forum/new-bag-limits-1
Rob H
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Join Recfishwest (if your not
Join Recfishwest (if your not a member), and they'll be able to tell you all about whats goin on.
Fisheries dont just make positive changes cos they're nice blokes.
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The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
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So - do you
know the answer Rob?
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no I dont, but if anyone is
no I dont, but if anyone is pushing that barrow its RFW, just like the crays etc.
Ive heard a rumour but havent asked the question.
Join up and help the cause if you havent-$20 odd bucks, a days worth of gaspers or a 6pak of beers.
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Below is a direct quote from
Below is a direct quote from the Fisheries web site.
With all the recent moves and bans that have been put in place to protect, and hopefully increase the population of Dhufish
we will see and increase in the boat limit. Remember, it is our fishery so lets look after it, not just for today but for future generations as well.
So fingers crossed gents for an early new years increase.
Dhufish recreational fishing
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Most recreational fishing for West Australian dhufish is done by boat-based fishers in the West Coast Bioregion (from east of Augusta to north of Kalbarri).
Stock assessments in recent years indicated that dhufish stocks were being overfished. In response to this, we put extra management measures in place. These have reduced the recreational catch of dhufish in the West Coast Bioregion to less than 50 per cent of the catch level in the region in 2005/06, meeting management objectives.
The current status of the stock of West Australian dhufish is ‘recovering’. The next assessment is due early in 2013'
Terry
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Mr Moore said
The fisheries minister , Norman Moore has released the new rules today and the boat limit for Dhu fish in the West Coast Bioregion is to remain at 2 per boat.
gibbs
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Got no problems with a boat
Got no problems with a boat limit of 2
craigb
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fish three up and see how the
fish three up and see how the odd man out feels
catch.fish
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2 dhus
3rd bloke should feel fine if he snaps a quick pic with it before releasing and shares the other two Dhu's with his mates. how much do you really need to eat anyway? plenty of fillets from 2 good size Dhu along with being able to bring in some snapper or other fish along with em.
2 dhu's per boat aint a bad rule, just means more dhu's out there to catch!
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boat limit
Hey Craigb, as for me I respect the bag/boat limits.
Most everyone has their opinion on a matter but usually the general commentators do not have the same insight into the facts ( in this case the present status of and then the requirements to sustainability) as the researchers do.
I reckon that a legal size Dhu has enough flesh to feed a family so a good tasty reward for a good days' fishing.
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Have to agree with craigb on
Have to agree with craigb on this one the 3rd licence holder who has paid the same amount for his licence is being ripped off.
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Not necessarily
He is only getting ripped off if the other 2 guys don't share their feed after he has caught a dhuie himself & released it. Plenty more fish to catch and a few more that i think are way tastier than Dhuies! Same applies if 4 in a boat. Can't take 4 dhuies.
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Point is why should he share
Point is why should he share if he has paid for a licence. Doesnt matter if they are are tastier or not, you pay for a licence you should be able to take whateva fish that the licence is good for. There are plenty of duies around, in fact that is what makes up most of our catch. Boat limits suck same goes for the crabs etc. if the govt want to enforce boat limits then the cost of licences shouldnt be as much as they are.Before you start saying the cash for licences go toward the benifits for rec fishers, well here in Bunno we have recieved sweet f all in that regard.
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Paul G
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What about the day you take
What about the day you take four on the boat and you only get three dhuies ,the fourth guy will be pissed off,sorry you got to draw the line somewhere and two dhuies is a good number.Maybe you should share your fish that would be a good place to start.At least I can rub your name of the deckie list.I bet you cry about paying for bait and fuel ,or is that the boat owners responsibilty.as he the one with the skippers ticket.
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No need to get personal Paul,
No need to get personal Paul, for your info i own the boat pay for all fuel and the bait.Also purchase licences for all the diff types of fishing even though i might not even use them throughout the year.Always share the fish we catch,but unlike some dont get to fish every week so when i do i like to get full value.If you are out every week i can understand you agreeing with a 2 per boat limit. i am lucky to get out once a month and can only take 2 mates out because i dont own a big flash boat. 2 average size dhuies doesnt go far between 3 families as we fish for a feed not to take pics of them. I agree that you have to draw the line re how many fish you can take, you guys are lucky up your way as there seems to be a lot more variety to catch, if we had as much down this way it wouldnt be a problem.Hopefully the new reef they have planned for here will bring in a bit more variety of fish,if it ever happens. sorry for sounding so negative but our govts promises dont fill me with hope.
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I can't see the dhuies boat
I can't see the dhuies boat limit being raised any time soon.Yes I am lucky I fish and dive Once,twice somtimes three time a week ,and go on fishing trips away,and have a big flash boat to boot.I have worked very hard for these things ,and am making the best of it as one never knows what is around the corner. . I have no problem with the regs the way they are.You will just have to try to get the boat out a little more.and leave the gardening for another day.
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Well i hope you are wrong
Well i hope you are wrong mate and they do raise the limit to 3 a boat.I have no probs with the the rest of the rules just the Dhuie rule. If you knew what my garden looks like you wouldnt use that comment, nah mate its called work and not gardening.
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Hey Willo
Either you are just having a good wind up or you really don't get the whole sustainable fishing idea! Either way complaining about $30 licence fee to catch fish when no do doubt you spend hundreds if not thousands on tackle, bait etc per year is a joke!
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Hey Willo
Either you are just having a good wind up or you really don't get the whole sustainable fishing idea! Either way complaining about $30 licence fee to catch fish when no do doubt you spend hundreds if not thousands on tackle, bait etc per year is a joke!
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Heard you the first time slam
Heard you the first time slam lol.
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i personally couldnt see them
i personally couldnt see them change the limit so soon, maybe it will be different in a couple of years after the stocks have recovered more. as far as 2 dhuies per boat, even if 4 are fishing and you get 2 thats 1 fillet each and usually there is enough meat for at least a couple of feeds.
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New guidelines as of 1st Feb
New guidelines as of 1st Feb 2013
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/Documents/recreational_fishing/rec_fishing_guide/rules_guide_statewide.pdf
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One Dhu per License Holder.
I'ld like to buy into the argument and say that the bag limit for Dhuey's on boats should be only restricted to the number of license holders on the boat and that being one dhu per license. You guys forget that we now have closures to ensure the sustainability of demersals which is a catch closure only and according to the Minister achieved the 50% reduction it was targeted at. Over the years i've listened to all the arguments from our scientists for the reasons for having such a closure ranging from poor juvanile recruitment through to sophisicated equipment used by rec-fishers that made the fish easier to catch and while we can't target the Dhu for two months of the year the Pro's can go at it hammer and tongs. It all makes not a bit of difference to the overall total fish bio-mass unless the fisheries Department can take a holistic approach to sustaining the fish stocks something they seem to struggle to get a handle on.
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Then people would here you
Then people would here you have a big boat and can take seven people. It's not fair you getting seven dhuies and I can only have two because I have little boat .Go fishing get you bag and be happy or take up lawn bowls.
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Equal Rights Paul G
I believe anyone who purchases a Recreational Fishing Boat License should have equal rights and equal bag limits as anyone else and that is not the case at the moment and I'm pretty sure that if it was challenged in a court of law under equal opportunity legislation that it would be found in the affirmative.
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Could not have said it any better Paul..
Could not have said it any better Paul.. Agree 100% LOL
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Poor Willo, it's a fair call
Poor Willo, it's a fair call to have one dhuie per angler max of 3. Usually fish 3 blokes & eat fish regularly, don't hang me it's only my opinion & I respect those that think it should remain at 2
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Gotta remember though its a
Gotta remember though its a Rec Boat Fishing Licence. Not a Dhui Fishing Licence, so having the licence doesnt entitle you to a Dhui, only to catch and keep fish off a boat. I like fishing three to my boat and am totally happy only taking two Dhuis as the catch is always equally shared between all as we all pay for fuel/bait. Even if there are four of us, or five of us. Even if only a couple have licences and a couple dont, my boats catch is still shared as the fuel/bait and other day costs are shared. As i have also stated in previous post to i only fish for Dhuis until the two are caught then stop fishing for them. I dont catch and release them unless they are undersized due to the risk that a large Dhui even if all care is taken may die. If the first two Dhuis are only 60cm then they are the two kept and then we leave to target non demersal species.
And i only get out chasing Demersals about once a month. Twice if i am very lucky. Really if you dont want someone to miss out under the current rules only fish two to a boat. Or get out more often alternating your mates/deckies.
If they are to change the limit, then i'll keep within the new limits.
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Farq it wasn't that many
Farq it wasn't that many years ago the limit was six.I'd personally like to see it lifted to three as that's a good crew number for the average boat. Remember people there are probably a lot of Dhu's that aren't properly released that die in the deeper water. I always make the effort to do it right. I reckon Baldies are probably rarer than Dhuies and I'm suprised the arse hasn't been cut out of the bag limit for them.
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im all good for the rules as
im all good for the rules as they are,
i also think the size on dhuys shold be increased to 60cm, you dont get alot of meat from a 50cm dhu...... better??
we only keep 60cm+ on our tub
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Agree with that Ron. 500mm
Agree with that Ron. 500mm is a pretty small Dhuie....all head.
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Buz
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" you dont get alot of a 50cm
" you dont get alot of a 50cm dhu!!"
Come ou with me Ron, i can get you onto heaps of little/undersized Dhuis in about 15m of water hahahahaha.
But yeah reckon a 50cm Dhui is tiny and 60cm would be a nice size.
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thanks mate...lol.. will have
thanks mate...lol.. will have to edit that a little bit
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Its all i can catch, Ron!
Its all i can catch, Ron! hahaha
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Totally agree
Ron, a 50cm Dhuie is tiny and barely worth keeping IMO.
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Howard G
I am not too sure you can really bring the equal opportunities gig to the table on this discussion. We are really looking at what we think is a reasonable figure for dhuies per boat. I don't agree with your idea of one bag limit per license for dhus but that is my opinion. I can see there is an increase in dhuies over the last few years all be it small ones however if we start to increase limits these numbers surely would start to decline again? I am just glad to be out on the water fishing as I enjoy it as a hobby and not just to get fillets in the freezer however nothing better than getting a feed also. I believe the current regs need to be left alone for a few more years yet to get a better appreciation of what effects they have on the fish populations.
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SLAM you have summed it up perfectly..
SLAM you have summed it up perfectly.. Agree 100%
Yes there are a lot more smaller dhuies around these days but feel that these fish need a few more years to grow and sow their oats... so to speak :-)
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