Boat Ramp timewasters
Ive just about had a gutfull of Boat Ramp timewasters and the busy times havent even started yet so here goes.
You are a boat ramp timewaster if you do the following while launching:
Rig your boat up IN the launch lanes (That makes you the king of the timewasters)
Load your boat from your car IN the launch lanes (so does that)
Stand around and have a good ol' CHAT with ya mates in the launch lane before and after launching your boat ( go chat on the ocean)
If you cant perform the simple task of reversing your car down the ramp ( go PRACTICE reversing)
You dont PRE-LOOSEN the shackle on the bit of chain that holds your boat on the trailer and then spend 10 mins looking for a pair of pliers
You dont take your boat all the way to the END of the jetty after launching it.
You park your car after launching go to your boat then realise you forgot to buy a ticket so then you go buy one and hold everybody up
You launch, park your car then take forever to walk back to your boat cos your a lazy, inconsiderate (walk faster were waiting)
Your mates running late so you decide to launch straight away (thats fine) - but then you TIE OFF on the jetty to wait for him instead of going over to the waiting area (go over to the waiting area your in everybody's way ).
You push off of the jetty first BEFORE you start your motor, the motor wont start or the battery is flat and your floating there like a idiot asking us non- to tow you back
You are a boat ramp timewaster if you do the following while retrieving:
You overtake someone in the cue (most would agree you should get a smak in the mouth for that one)
You have no idea how to dock your boat and hit the boat in front of you (go practice during the quiet times).
You dock the boat then you and ya mate(s) have a good ol' chat on the boat while waiting for the boat in front of you to be retrieved THEN you decide maybe you'll go get the car and trailer - go to the car as soon as you dock its quicker
ou cant get the boat onto the trailer even with help from any crew youve got with you (go practice)
Once the boats on the trailer still in the ramp you start unloading your gear to people on the jetty - just and do it in the car park.
You drive up the ramp, stop with the boats rear still down the incline angle and remove the bungs then we all gotta wait for the water to drain out (just off out the way)
The worst timewasters of all however are the ones that do any of the above and then start a big confrontation with the non-timewasters like myself just cos i said something to you about it.
tailor marc
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haha as harsh as that sounds
haha as harsh as that sounds its pretty much spot on
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big john
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Nothing
Nothing harsh about the above.
I take it the original post had some colourful language beeroclock, good to see you toned it down.
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milsey
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WOW WOW WOW, eeeeeeeasy
WOW WOW WOW, eeeeeeeasy girrrrrllllllll.
Agree with the message, disagree with the approach.
tailor marc
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Should print that off and
Should print that off and have it at each boatramp in Perth
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opsrey
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+1
Belly Fish
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Although I agree with (almost) all the sentiments....
you really do need to chill out a bit and enjoy life....you're a long time dead
beeroclock
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OK but i just wanna launch and retrieve
my boat rather than sit there and wait my short life away thanks.
steve100
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Hahahahahahaha gold
Hahahahahahaha gold
crasny1
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Valium and Prozac
Anyone. Gold for sure.
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chris raff
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Maybe take up yoga ..
Maybe take up yoga .. ohmmmmmm ohmmmmm
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beeroclock
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Ta for the advice but
i would rather be out on the ocean fishing - or in 40m+ at night time blowing bubbles - its much more exhilirating than going ohmmmmmm ohmmmmm in a room with a candle - try my thing out - you will agree.
MUSTANG 2250
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guessing u just had a
guessing u just had a confrontation with the said f*wits? as much as i agree its not worth ruining your own day out with getting all agro i am a fairly new boat owner and i think i have it pretty well sorted when it comes to launch retrieve rather than get annoyed maybe a few words of helping experience wouldnt go astray i for one would welcome it
beeroclock
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No probs mate but if you read between
the lines thats what i did
Saulty2
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unfortunately happens all too often
makes for a really loooong day ,im quiet sure they do it just to feel important and to piss people off
bradz
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Back in too far
Bit harsh, but I see where you are coming from.
The one that gets me is the guy who when retreiving, backs his trailer in so far that the boat floats above the rollers. Cant get it to sit right...tries to drive off only to have the boat sit crooked. Reverses back in. Boat floats again. Tries to get it to centre, only to have it float off centre again.
If this is you, dont back in so far. The rollers are your friend. Use them. If you boat sits crooked, push it off, drive up the ramp a bit further, then retrieve it with the winch.
All these guys I see at the ramp think they will save sooooo much time by not using the winch, and then proceed to make 4 attempts to load it by the "float on" method.
Oh, and when these guys start blasting their girl friend/wife because she cant hold the boat steady (while its floating) while he drives off...pull your head in. You are in the wrong, not the helper.
Phew. I feel better now.
I like to offer assistance at the ramps when I can, but as a word of warning...no-one will take your assistance or advise if their girl friend/wife is there with them. They take it an a assault on their manhood.
I did then the best that I knew how. When I knew better, I did better.
tangles
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agree
agree with all the comments but geez mate you really have gota foul mouth on ya and there are kids that get on this site so back the language off a bit hey! if you wana go saying language like that then do it in person to the person responsible not air it on a public site! just saying!
beeroclock
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OK - I m still riled up from the weekend.
Post has been edited but the point im trying to make stands.
D_d_001
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Retrieving the boat at
Retrieving the boat at Woodies Sat ....an obv noob with his wife. (older couple) he was coming in infront of us but in a diff lane and couple waiting. he had parked the trailer way too deep and floated the boat on with almost no retrieve.
took a while to get the boat centered cos he was too deep. couple of us helped him (gave him a couple of pointers), he thanked us and was a genuine nice guy. (don't see why he should have to wait till midnight on a Tuesday when the wind is howling to .....practice.)
generally agree with how you should conduct yourself at the ramp but no need for any agro at the ramp (or here !)
Edit: wrote this b4 bradz commented must have beat me to the post button
Rob H
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better approach maybe is to
better approach maybe is to go and see if they need a hand.
Can be frustrating but the wrong approach won't help either
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dant
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haha was pissen myself
haha was pissen myself reading that, unloaded with every barrel - brilliant, i had to go through and tick of to make sure i wasnt a EDIT: timewaster myself.
Agree with Tailor Marc - print that out and put it on each boat ramp
Generally i think its pretty good out there, couple of odd stragglers but hey whats an extra 10 mins or so.
Norty
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While I agree with some/most of the comments
@beeroclock
I take exception to this one:
You launch, park your car then take forever to walk back to your boat cos your a lazy, inconsiderate bastard (walk faster were waiting).
well wait a little longer princess, some of us oldies have to use walking sticks and aren't as fit as you 30yo younguns.
how about showing some respect and asking if you can help people instead of expecting everyone to get out of
your way.. just because you think you have some right to get out quicker.
I suppose theres nothing in life that you can't do, or haven't had much practice doing.
either way, take some advice from other people who have commented and chill out, it's supposed to be a relaxing hobby,
if you want to exhibit rage, go drive on the freeway.
my 0.02c
grantarctic1
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A glimpse of our future
I wonder if our metro ramps might look abit like this in 10 years from now .
http://youtu.be/66YSjRGKaII
uncle
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still worthwhile going down with
a coldie and watching the ramp rage then ha ha
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MandurahMatt
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Haha Quality rant well done.
Haha Quality rant well done. You forgot the bit about the time waster that gets angry about incompetent people rather than lending a hand !
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beeroclock
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At 6:00am yesterday morning there were two
boats side by side at the front of the queue at hillaries marina BOTH loading their boats from their cars. The boat rigging zone on the left before you get to rthe front of the queue was vacant. They were mates and after taking their time loading they went to the front of their cars and had a chat. ALL the launch and retrieve lanes in front of the ramp were empty so are you saying myself and the others in the queue should have got out and "lent a little hand"? Why? there was no one in front of them they could have driven forward and unloaded in the straightening lane you enter before reversing their boats
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Give it to them
Give it to them beeroclock, not enough dickheads get told these days.
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Mike17
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Here's one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylUinWdUKqM
Use The Force
dumper
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The worst is the clowns at
The worst is the clowns at hillaries without a boat trailer on who drive into the middle of the launching area and just stop and gawk
pelagicyachts
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wow intense set of rules! -
wow
intense set of rules! - all commonsense stuff but we all make mistakes from time to time - glad its notsomething i have to contend with!
dean1walsh
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Mate i think the basis of
Mate i think the basis of your hissy fit is fair enough but the way you have put it makes you sound just as selfish as the people your talking about!
and you should probably learn to spell (timewasters not timewaters) and your missing a few words here and there... people won't take you seriously if you come across as not very intelligent!
beeroclock
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Ta for that -
timewasters and timewaters used in the same paragraph is obviously a ""typo" - you dont even have to be intelligent to understand that - and by the way if you accidently print a "typo" here and there in a public forum (which, by my understanding does not require perfect, formal english) doesnt mean your "unintelligent". During the 6 years it took me to complete my degree at university Im sure I produced many "typo's" but none of the professors that marked my papers ( whom i also now work with) think I'm "not very intelligent"
Lastchance
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Your 1 up on me, Beeroclock,
Your 1 up on me, Beeroclock, I never went to Yoonifersity. By the way, I dont see what the big issue is with your post is either. Nothing more frustrating than numbies getting in the way when all you want to do is get out there.
We're pretty lucky up here, most people are onto it.
uncle
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now we have a grammer
nazi joining in, I'm sure we all feel like this sometimes, one of the things you had to put up with at tanndabiddy were the Q jampers, I used to get hostile and my crew would say chill out, there was a few guys I'd like to meet broken down on the sea or road!!
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Justin M
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You'll find it's spelt
You'll find it's spelt 'grammar'........*gets coat*
A lot of those things mentioned in the OP are common sense....but personally ranting and raving like a mad bastard over these things doesn't do much other than give you high BP, use to be a hot head myself but find it easier these days just to relax and either just let it go or maybe try and be helpful...not just fishing related but other things as well.
sea-kem
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Where I launch there aren't
Where I launch there aren't that many and still a good percentage don't have a clue and are time wasters. I make a point of being first out before all of them.
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Geoff78
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Bingo.
Bingo.
Geoff78
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I can't wait for this bloke's
I can't wait for this bloke's next fishing report.
tim-o
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Hay Beero, you must have time
Hay Beero, you must have time to waste typin all that out lol
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stilly
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i agree 100%
this bloke has hit the nail on the head with all my boat ramp annoyances, and to all you knockers clearly you need to learn some common courtesy still! also if you are too old to get a brisk walk up oldman you are clearly too old to be out on a boat!
D_d_001
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Are you trying to say
Are you trying to say that if you are in wheelchair like one of my best friends, you shouldn't be allowed to "take your time" getting to the boat ???
ASSHOLE
common courtesy ??? or is it just old ppl you think don't deserve to go out on a boat
Rob H
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it takes what it takes Stilly
it takes what it takes Stilly
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big john
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Please
Please tell me you dont make your mate in the wheelchair wheel himself all the way across the carpark from where the vehicle and trailer is eventually parked!
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D_d_001
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yeah your're right I should
yeah your're right I should just tell him " you're too slow I'm going to drive you right to the boat"
funny how some disabled ppl like to be autonomous
big john
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D_d_001
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Hahaha here's me getting
Hahaha here's me getting ....just a little ...emotive.
I'd be pretty sure to say that almost all guys here .....and down at most of the boat ramps I've used are ...if you get to know them pretty fun and similar guys to me and ourselves......we all love the ocean ....we all got boats !!!!
some people don't have a lot of years experience launching and retrieving boats, and screw up and take an extra Cpl minutes.
cut them some slack
99% of my launches go perfectly but I'm sure
next time the old...or young guy in front of you forgets his keys or takes extra time......take the time to say to him .....no probs has happened to me b4.
You will be surprised at how good you feel .....and how good you make him feel !
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big john
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Always
Help is always offered to the genuine mate, but they're not to be confused with the deliberate world owe's them a favour arseholes.
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nightfish
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Rage not helped
Rage not helped by all day trolling for naught, as per his last post. I know the rage though try driving around perth for a living!
chris raff
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Post - traumatic stress
Post - traumatic stress disorder related to the dermersal ban and no footy lol .. you have to remember alot of people are clueless because they aren't informed . They don't read fishing forums and protocol isn't part of the RBFL . I would find it bizarre seasoned fishos would intentionally hold up ramps . Hopefully you gave them a little rev up and they learnt from that experience . Not worth carrying on like a pork chop though but I understand your anguish .
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squidvicious1
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if you are silly enough to
if you are silly enough to launch at hillarys at 6.00 am you are going to get all the timewasters,most smarter fisho's leave at 5.00.how about you try launch at 8.00 am and that will make you blood boil.
Jason P
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Watched a couple of knobs
Watched a couple of knobs retrieving in the launch lanes at woodies on Sunday, funny enough that Karma nearly sunk one of the boats as he took that long with the water edging the gunnels and his wife screaming its sinking its sinking. Lol. Luckly he winched it up in time.
DM306
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Are there general
Are there general 'rules/instructions' signage at boat ramps?
Rob H
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Im probably going to bring my
Im probably going to bring my boat to Freo and do Rotto etc at xmas so will likely see this first hand.
But I have to say that personally I have never seen this in Gero.
Ive had trouble getting my boat on, and a bloke comes over and offers a hand.
Ive seen a few boats banked up waiting to retrieve where the cars in line are out of sync with the boats waiting-"no worries mate, I'll give ya a hand to get past if ya want"? from the guy whose cars stuck behind mine but boat is in front.
Also saw in Coral Bay, an old boy with a dodgy leg park his boat at ramp and load up his stuff for about 10 minutes, annoying, but didn't ruin my day by a country mile.
These days I try to think-"if that's the worst thing that's going to happen all week, then its a pretty good week"
Doesn't always work though
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
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Everyone's just winging it.
beau
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I love bringing this one
I love bringing this one up..
Is it the boat cue, or the car/trailer cue?
Anyone have the link to that thread? That was classic
beau
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So which is
So which is it?
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/boat-retrieving-etiquette
No wonder theres so much rage at the ramps, everyones got different rules!
jdavies_99
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:)
There has been 3 threads on this issue.
The first 2 had majority of users argue car order, the latest had about 65% say boat order and 35% say car order.
Obviously we all have different ideas.
Bit hard to get angry at people when there aren't any agreed upon rules.
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scotto
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Gotta let them know
It's pretty easy to loose your shit at these "time wasters", and I've let my fair share have it in no uncertain terms.
These days though, I'm more often just letting them know in a civil manner. "You're launching in the retrieving lane", "you should derig in the derigging area", etc etc.
WE all know the general gist of what's supposed to happen, but WE are unfortunately the minority, and other than "launch & retrieve" signs, there isn't any laws with regards to how your boat gets in and out of the ramp.
I beleive ive it's something the DOT people need to address and enforce, and even more so if they are charging a fee to use the ramp/park.
sea-kem
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Right along my line of
Right along my line of thinking Scotto, why on the weekends can't they employ a marshall to make sure at least that things keep flowing?Only needs to be for a few hours in the morning and arvo at peak times. Shit if they can do it at a golf course...... There are genuinely some people who just don't know and need to be pointed in the right direction and then there's the arrogant smart arses who just need to be told. Most people who see someone struggling will lend hand.
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MandurahMatt
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Got no mates !!
So what would be the correct way to go about things if your by yourself ?! This could be interesting ! Lol
Bewdey Fellaz
Rob H
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Just do what you need to do
Just do what you need to do the best you can, dont stress or ruin your day over other people who cant restrain themselves.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
MandurahMatt
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First trailer ready makes
First trailer ready makes sence to me too
Bewdey Fellaz
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ban, get the popcorn
ha ha what a good read, the demersal ban has this effect only about 3&1/2 weeks left.
I have launched out of cockburn, east freo, hillaries, oreef and mindarie mostly. Although I am originally from SOR it pains me at some of the things I see down at those 2 southern ramps over many years, went out and did a water test on a brand new trailcraft at cockburn for a mate and even the boat dealer had no idea lol. If its busy I skip hillaries and go to ocean reef rarely is there too much trouble there plenty of room for a few timewasters lol. can usually pick them and go to a different finger jetty
Anyway most of the fisho's are ok, if you want to go and have a laugh wait until waterski/wakeboard season fires up go down to maylands and have a look at that ramp
Apologies in advance to the grammar nazi's
catchalittle
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Pure gold definately think
Pure gold definately think this should be posted at every ramp might help moved people along
Nathan
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Nice thread, you have my
Nice thread, you have my support. There are some inconsiderate peanuts out there!
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Willlo
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What about when you pull in
What about when you pull in to drop the deckie of to fetch the car and trailer and the finger jetty has half a dozen crab nets tied to it and 2 or 3 fisho's wettin a line.Thats one of my pet hates.Most times i drop deckie of reverse back of the jetty and when the trailer is coming down the ramp drive the boat straight on,only prob with that is a boat normally comes in and ties of to the jetty and then proclaims they were there first thus blocking your run,normally i can get around but its still annoying.
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crasny1
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We have experience on our side
Well at my age I have. But I must also have learned some patience, as I remember how nervous you can be as a novice. Most so called timewasters arent trying to do that, they just dont know any better due to inexperience, and it is often very easy to see.
The ramp we use now is luckily not busy mostly, and if it is it does appear very jovial and friendly. I have seen 3 crews helping one unfortunate that was having a not so whale off a time retrieving his boat due to inexperience and a blustery wind. Whilst he was helped there was numerous kind comments passed along to help educate, and from him kind thank you's and apologies.
Guys and gals, we have all been timewasters when we didnt know any better, so maybe try and help and educate.
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Noxious
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Most people on this site are
Most people on this site are dedicated fisho's, with a constant sprinkling of newcomers. The thing people have to remember is, we all started somewhere. We all had to learn to effectively launch and retrieve a boat at some stage, and everyone makes mistakes.
I have my boat launching/retrieving down to a fine art these days. I remember when I first got my rig having issues pulling into a boat ramp one afternoon when the wind and current were absolutely belting through! luckily for me a couple nice fellas at the boat ramp gave me a hand, and we had a quick beer at the ramp after. Turned a potentially disasterous situation into a pleasant one.
These days if I see someone struggling a bit I will offer whatever help I can, especially people with young kids or older people.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of knob heads down at the ramps (go down to hillary's on a busy day in summer)! But there are also many that are just starting out who do need a bit of help! help these people out and the boat ramps will run more smoothly.
No need to get so angry! I spent many of my teenage years and angry young man, and all I seemed to want to do is punch on with whoever would have me. These days I am for more level headed and a much more peaceful person and life is MUCH better. Chill out my friend, life is far too short to walk around with a chip on your shoulder.
I think a lot has to come down to where you launch from. At cockburn sound, I have rarely been held up or come across rude people. Hillarys is the complete opposite, lots of people trying to cut ya grass with no idea, particularly in summer when all the part time boat owners come out of the woodwork.
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Doooma
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I do agree with most
I do agree with most comments.... but you say continually.... "Go Practice"
I would assume he would need to be a a ramp to practice! which in turn would probably %&* you off even if he was just doing what you have recommended.
Maybe offer some help next time if they need it.... or asking them politley to get a move on.
tim-o
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I have accepted that majority
I have accepted that majority of humans suffer HI and I too get pissed off when other HI sufferer's actions have a negative affect on my life. I have become alot calmer and happier since I have been able to minimise the impact that HI sufferers have on my life (still working on the acceptance part tho). I have found a job close to home, so I have minimal driving in traffic with HI sufferers , I drive to the launch ramp early to avoid HI sufferers on the road and at the ramp. I shop online to avoid HI sufferers again on the road, in the carpark and in the shops. I just need to cull a few HI sufferer's feline pets in my neighbourhood and I will be content lol. Dont get shitty, just understand and accept, a vast number of society's homosapiens are cronic HUMAN INCOMPETENCE SUFFERERS so avoid contact for a happy calm life haha
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
uncle
Posts: 9507
Date Joined: 10/02/07
arhhhh its nice to be able
to fish during the week,no time wasters!
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
sea-kem
Posts: 15043
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Bastard! :P
Bastard! :P
Love the West!
Big Thump
Posts: 8
Date Joined: 07/03/10
Its a shame the world is full
Its a shame the world is full of Knobs like you.. Chill out
GET ON BOARD
Saulty2
Posts: 659
Date Joined: 28/05/10
its not hard to pick the novices
and yes they will gladly appreciate any help & advice ,as opposed to the arrogant pricks that think they own the place .
quadfisher
Posts: 1146
Date Joined: 28/09/10
Am I too late , just found post!
It smells like its still fresh , the anger, the lack of patience , and the gold class comedy!
Anyway I agree with others , in what you say is correct, in that we all should try to be efficent , and courteous, while using common
sense at ramps, but always remembering that skill levels and experience do differ , and if you cant accept that , your a making yourself
stressed out for nothing, as it will never change.
Would like to have been a fly on the wall , when launched your first boat beer, you may have I dare say it, timewasted.
I give you a 7 for bringing the issue up , a 10 for the rant which was summed up in a complete and well vented manner,
but had to mark you a lower score of 5 for delivery for annoying the oldies , see you at the ramp!
quadfisher
fishnguru
Posts: 64
Date Joined: 19/02/10
Time wasters !!!
You obvoiusly put in abit of time writing this ....... IMO you dont mind wasting time yourself !!!
And yes , show some courtesy towards the oldies. I understand your frustrations , but , Its Guys like you that have this URGENT Rush to do everything at warp speed , that you end up having / causing dramas yourself.....
Slow down a bit and enjoy your time on the water , regardless of how long it takes ....Can't be that hard - surely !!!
P.s - Your UNI Degree .....automatically makes you a Legend ( does it ) ......
If everyone concentrated on the best things in life .... There would definately be a shortage of Fishing Rods !!!
joe amato
Posts: 731
Date Joined: 21/12/08
sure there are timewasters in your opinion
sure there are time wasters in your opininion,i may be 1 of them because i take my time reversing the trailer down the ramp,but i am getting there,all i can say at least offer a hand instead of been on the piss all day or been a hot head,just got to chill instead of stressing out............
Redchoppa
Posts: 102
Date Joined: 15/07/12
I stop on the ramp...
And take the bungs out but it's only ever a litre or two, unless it's packed or there's a few knobs in a hurry about, then I'll take the bungs out at the wash down area.
I've helped heaps of people at the ramp (like the poor bloke at Point Peron ramp yesterday who had a case of premature launch with his new mini tug boat) and been helped myself ( like the time I left the bungs out. Thanks to old fellas that helped and kept the jokes to a minimum).
Inevitably, there will be people who have problems or are just plain slow or extra careful, if you get pissed of at the ramp then maybe it's time to find a hobby where you don't interact with them.
ironpirate
Posts: 47
Date Joined: 20/09/12
time wasters
I think what he is saying is not that there is newbies wasting time, god you help the poor bastards, they have to start somewhere and they might learn from you and be greatfull you were there for advice and help.
he is not having a go at the fine older generation who deserve there time to get sorted at the ramp with help if they want it. hes talking about the fellas who know better and do dumb stuff at the ramp like taking pics of there boat while launching and above highlighted points. man if some one needs help any one would help but geez some people!!
hows that no swearing......ha ha i hear your pain.
wet lines
timboon
Posts: 2961
Date Joined: 14/11/10
I also might be late on this
I also might be late on this one, not knowing either of you I`m warming to the guy with the name beeroclock rather than the self proclaimed fishnguru...
I didn't read the "foul" language apparently used earlier but fuck sakes guys need to relax...
Timewaters??? Serioulsy!!!
The moral of this story is to be organised & not fuck around at the ramp, not too much to ask... You will gain experience by being organised...
petermac
Posts: 2946
Date Joined: 03/03/10
my two bobs worth
got to say I am not going to run from the car park after launching my boat and I am not got going to run to the car park when we get back at the ramp i have seen lots of grumpy sods at the ramp but it usualy because they are making a mess of retrieving their boat just have a bow stern rope and you cant go wrong
mc
Posts: 91
Date Joined: 10/09/13
Just got my RST and shopping
Just got my RST and shopping for a boat, found this thread searching for info for new boat owners. Good info for newbies from the original poster, albeit a bit harsh, I'm sure you were all a new boat owner at some stage.
Looks like it's a topic that pisses a few people off, they should probably include some ettiquette info in the skippers course workbook.
If you see me struggling, givus a hand and I'll shout you a beer! No need to bite my head off.
sea-kem
Posts: 15043
Date Joined: 30/11/09
You'd get help mate. It's
You'd get help mate. It's more aimed at the arrogant wankers that frequent the ramps and don't have the courtesy to move their arses when it's busy down there.
Love the West!
mrwinta
Posts: 457
Date Joined: 14/01/10
Safety #1 priority
I feel your pain with the guys who should know better and tootle along as if they own the ramp, common courtesy goes a long way and with that being displayed by the ramp user then the next one will have no issues.
Obiviously the biggest priority down at the ramp should always be safety and feeling rushed by some ignorant selfish prik and his bogan mates will only increase the risk of something going wrong. For new boaties just take it easy and use the rigging lanes and the launch retrieve lanes as intended and if possible load the boat at home to make the process as safe, quick and efficient as possible.
There is a shit load of things that could go wrong at the ramp i.e. if you forgot to put the safety chain on for instance then that could lead to the boat coming off the trailer on the highway and result in something fatal.
No rush just safely and eficiently so everybody enjoys their day!
NEVER PUSH YOUR GRANNY WHEN SHE'S SHAVING
Walfootrot
Posts: 1385
Date Joined: 23/07/12
"NEVER PUSH YOUR GRANNY
"NEVER PUSH YOUR GRANNY WHEN SHE'S SHAVING" WTF
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
Grant Jones
Posts: 91
Date Joined: 17/08/13
I agree with most comments,
I agree with most comments, take it easy and enjoy your day out. Sometimes you really have to be patient though. I had a guy at port Kennedy pull his boat out and then stop half way up the ramp, open the locker on the side of his trailer and proceed to load his family and all their beach gear including gazebo, chairs tow tube etc. I thought that was inconsiderate . He could have loaded at the de rigging area like everybody else does. I didn't say anything too him, just waited my turn.
I use a steel billet about 250mm diameter by 60mm thick with an eye bolt in it as a mooring anchor because if I use the jetty the ski gets banged up.
When I get to the bottom of the ramp I quickly dump my anchor off to one side in about 2foot of water out of everyone's way, launch ski , hook it to anchor and I'm done.
I leave it there for when I come back from fishing so I can just hook the ski on it and go get my car. I did that the whole of last summer without any trouble.
This season, my first trip out, I get back and somebody has stolen it.