Whose SPs for herring?
Submitted by till on Thu, 2008-06-05 20:50
First I apologise for looking for advice on how to catch the rats of the sea, but I have a reason, really.
I've been down the mole a few times lately and I've found the herring there really very gutless on slices. I've tried a few different weights and retrieves, but the little buggers are not tempted usually, and if they are, the only get on at the slice leaves the water, 2m off the rocks. Ordinarily I'm just spinning for Bonito (that aren't there), so I don't take much gear.
I could just take bait, but essentially I'm lazy (I don't get why is this a sin?). Any tips on what they like that I can just leave in my tacklebox, should I just need a break from the bonitor (hohoho), or just want some live bait?
TIA,
till
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Jdubya
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Ive caught some before with
Ive caught some before with orange grubs (bushy's). tried few different colours and patterns but most luck with plain old orange.
mike79
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worms
the old man gets them on the red worms and a light weight. does really well on them.
hlokk
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I try to 'match the hatch'.
I try to 'match the hatch'. I like the squidgy pro 70mm pilly which works when they're there. Small twistys are good too. A herring coughed up some small silver baitfish today. Same size as the 5g twisty I caught it on, as with the squidgy pros.
Herring take a lot of stuff (e.g. green straws), so I suspect a lot of different plastics will work well. Just remember the berley trail.
The main thing is to be confident with it
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till
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The main thing is to be
The main thing is to be confident with it
See, I'm noticing that is the hard bit. Down south herring on metals is a breeze but these metro runts are really chicken. I recently picked up some larger SPs but the only thing I've hooked on em so far is a black tip reef shark ...
I want to believe!
It looks like I'm waiting awhile for an offshore breeze at the Mole to try balloon live-baiting to those tuna schools I can't cast to, but perhaps I'll try it then.
Elora Danan
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Softplastic's for Herring!
Gday Till,
I've been having some great success on Berkely Powerbass Minnows (Green with Eyes) with a size 1/8 TT head jig. They have a great action even if you just retrieve it in with out any twitches. But the action that I've put on them is the good old retrieve (fast) and then twitch it (a couple quick sharp pulls of the rod tip) and then sink for a second or two then do the same thing again.
Hopefully this get you somewhere mate.
P.S: Berley is the one that gets them going!
Cheers lads,
Darda. H
upg
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aniseed oil ussually fires
aniseed oil ussually fires them up a bit
i have been using small sea rocks and yamaria blues code stick bait to good effect lately
i also use the gulp sandworms not sure what size jighead though
Elora Danan
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Yamaria Blues!
They are good sticks, got a couple to get me some Herring on the surface. Love it when they crunch it on the surface!
Cheers lads,
Darda. H
JamManJr
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What about a good old
What about a good old drinking straw? Always works for me.
Daisy
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Last time I was in Esperance
Last time I was in Esperance I caught heaps of 'em on 2" Gulp minnow grubs in Pumpkinseed.
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Auslobster
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Next time you're in the
Next time you're in the tackle shop, till, have a look at their baitchaser rigs...you know, the ones you'd use for yellowtail/slimies/etc...and try to find ones that have little rubber pink shrimps on them. Should be 5 to a pack, all rigged up, for about $3.50 a pack.
I pull the shrimps off and chuck all the hooks and line into the bin...then I thread the shrimp onto no bigger than a 1/8 jighead, in fact 1/12 and 1/16 heads are best. Then it's onto the 2 kg spin outfit and absolutely dynamite for herring, skippy, salmon trout, silver bream, and tailor, although with the latter tend to make a mess of the little rubber lure!
Elora Danan
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Gday Auslobster!
Is this similar to what your talking about?
Just thought I might wack that up so it might help each other in the future.
Cheers lads,
Darda. H
hlokk
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You can buy packs of those
You can buy packs of those little pink shrimp by themselves as well. Seen them at bluewater scarborough and I think oceanside.
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till
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I used to fish baitchasers
I used to fish baitchasers when I was a kid, but /with bait/. I picked up a few berkley minnows, but because I'm ham-handed, I went for 1/4oz. I'll see how I go on them before trying some others.
Auslobster
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Yeah, ED, that's pretty
Yeah, ED, that's pretty close....the actual shrimps are about 2/3 actual size of your pic but very similar. As I said, you wouldn't want anything bigger than a 1/8 oz jighead 'cause then there would be more jighead/hook than lure!
The Gulp sandworms are probably even deadlier but also more expensive on a per fish basis simply because they are so fragile. After a couple of headshaking fights with herring/salmon trout they tend to fall to pieces while these little shrimps can take a hell of a battering! They also seem to be a bit more blowie resistant than typical softies.
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Oil for burley
Just go to anywhere they rotisserie chichen and ask for some of the oil [take a container].It is the base of most burley oils you buy and you can get it for nothing most times.Put a small hole in the top of a milk bottle ,tie it on a rope and let it float around ,lets a steady stream out without the need to keep chucking handfulls in