jigging today, nebraska
Hey guys went jigging today on nebraska charters. Went jigging in shallowish water close to rotto and got onto a few smaller sambos before heading out deep. We got deep and second drop i got hit hard followed by dreamtime(james) and now onto a double hook up of solid sambos. The sambos were tiring out and we could start to see colour before you guessed it.. we saw COLOUR haha sharked only metres before the boat. The sambo was a ripper would have easily been 40 plus kilo sambo and then same with james got sharked to another solid sambo. Will get pics of the half or more i got back big momma fulll of eggs devistating it was killed. Hanif got into some decent sambos to and boated them in one piece. His gf doing well with the jigging and hooking up on a few also. James jigged a tuna aswell with hanif getting one final sambo in the shallows and so then after that we headed in early, was blowin nutzz.
allrounder
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That all but answers the question
In this post alone is the answer to the question of when the sambo aggs should be closed i feel.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Markie
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mongrel sharks
mongrel sharks
DazSamFishing
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breeding
I agree.
Rig
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Yep
They unnecessarily get sharked full of eggs. Maybe sambo jogging has a short future if the breeding stock are getting hammered. But because they aren't a prize eating fish I don't expect to see fisheries put on a ban whilst they are breeding
DazSamFishing
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Everyone has to do their
Everyone has to do their part in the sambo fishery. I'll probably head out there later in the month but will give it a miss if I continue to hear these stories.
Seaquest
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Shame, what once was called
Shame, what once was called a world class fishery has now become a shark feeding ground. I agree time to shut it down before too much more damage is done. The sharks are not just going to disappear all of a sudden.
Georgejungle
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What about starting up the
What about starting up the shark fishery again for a month or two a year???. Is there too many sharks out there now because the shark fishery is banned in the metro area?????.Seems to be more attacks on humans and more close encounters every year. Killing one species to protect another is not a solution but is there an imbalance now because no one catches sharks???? just a thought
carnarvonite
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Complaints
The shark fishery between Mandurah and Lancelin was shut down because of complaints from recreational fishers because they were blame for catching demersals as well as sharks and now you want it opened up again!!!
Its only natural that they are going to be attracted to the area by wounded fish vibrations in the water from hooked sambos and being creatures who learn habits quickly they return each year for an easy feed and who could blame them.
IMO shut it down for a month or six weeks to let them breed, this has to be done by fisheries and heavily policed to stop the ones who will sneak in for a bash at the drop of a hat.
JohnF
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I think everyone (including
I think everyone (including Charter operators) need to agree to a code of conduct where you move as soon as one sambo gets sharked.....I mean, once one fish has been sharked, there is little chance of getting another good sized fish in from the depths....
Plenty of options with the various barges and wrecks, but it is irresponsible to keep hooking sambos in one place and feeding em to sharks, particularly full of eggs.
If we dont do this off our own bat, authorities will institute draconian rules.
Interested to hear others opinions, but it does look like something is going to have to be done.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
allrounder
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I think it is unfair to put this on the whole
charter fleet as a couple have done the right thing over the years.(not saying that your post is saying that John)Shikari has done the right thing from the start and will continue to do so.Saltwater has been doing the righty in the few years that he has been out there.I think it falls back to a lot of johnny come lately rec fishos with no ethics and a couple of charter operators that have even on occasion (a few years back)put burley in to attract more sharks.I for one used to head out to the patches and would be only one of a half a dozen rec boats out there.Slowly over the years they doubled then doubled that and so on.To the point that we stopped even going ended up going out and spending half the day netting and releasing other boats fish that they had mishandled.To be honest i think the sharks will do the job for the fisheries dept.I said last year it was not going to see another two years.Looks like it is going to be a year early.It is a sad thing as so many did the best they could for a lot of years just to have a lot of hard work go down the drain.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
abeldog
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With you John
I have booked and cancelled various charters based on the feedback from this forum.
No point going out and hammering the nusery if we can't even get a photo.
It's not only the ones that get taken by the grey coats, but also a percentage of sambos that don't go back in a good condition and die over a couple of hours.
Hmmm
here we are trying to do the right thing by catch and release yet we still have an impact.
Saw the movie "Old Man Of the Sea" today, a book by Hemingway.
The old guy caught a marlin, dragged his boat all over the sea for three days, got it to the boat(it was bigger than the boat) tied it up for the long trip home, only had the head and frame by the time he got it home. Got sharked time and time again. Movie made in 1958 maybe we could learn something here
"People See Things As They Are & Ask Why???
We Can All Dream of Things That Never Were and Ask Why Not!!"( RK )
STEVE231
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It seems to me as though it
It seems to me as though it is a fore gone conclusion.
After reading the reports on here, you have to be a tool to go out and keep sacrificing sambos, it will be very interesting to see what the charters do!!
It's shaping up to be a very "sharky" year, and a very big waste of fish and time going out there to jig.
grayzeee
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there really is only the
there really is only the shark fishing option left.
a fishery in it's own right , and they've got to pull a bit harder than sambo's too.
i think the saltwater boys trying to start the shark fishing thing is a great move.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
schecky
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Think it would be a good
Think it would be a good idea to close the sambo fishery this season if this is going to be the case, gotta feel for the charter companies though, going to be tough for them!
At the end of the day the consumer is sovereign so it is up to the individual to not go out when we get these reports and I am sure they will do that... I mean who wants to go jigging to lose gear anyway haha
Will have to get out there once and see for myself once anyway...
motty
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im only speaking from
im only speaking from mills's perspective here, but we have cancelled a number of trips jigging due to the shark issue. I think all we can try is going out there each weekend, see how we go, and like the guys have said here, if one sambo gets taken, then must move on. It is for this reason that we are doing trolling for sbt's, and whatever else we can to try and give the punters an enjoyable day out there. Unfortunately what a lot of them dont understand is that the shark situation is something completely out of our control. they get pissed off that we are not landing any sambos and when we tell them we have to move on, they get narky cause they are not getting what they paid for. It is for this reason that before the boat departs, I tell them that there has been a lot of sharks out there, and explain to them the value of this unique fishery and how we must do all we can to protect it, and so as a result, if the noahs move in, we move out.
I think that the best plan of action would be to maybe have a jigging season once every 3 years, this way the sharks dont get used to having the free feed every year, and allows 2 years for the sambos to recover and breed uninterrupted. I also think that a lot of the onus can go onto the charter operators to take pics of boat regos out there doing the wrong thing, and be able to pass this info onto fisheries for further action.
What do you guys think?
Paully
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So Motty
do you or other Mills staff advise the punters of this before they pay top dollar for the charter, given the demersal closure will already impact on them , rather than "before the boat departs" ?
motty
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dunno mate. I dont get to
dunno mate. I dont get to see or speak to the punters until they are on the boat mate. That is up to those in the office. All I can do is ensure they have as good a day as possible once they are on the boat.
Paully
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Might alleviate getting
"pissed off" customers , after all, I can understand why to a certain degree.
STEVE231
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The shit thing about it is
The shit thing about it is that the sharks are protected, Graham and Jamie did the right thing the other week and moved on as soon as the problem was detected, but how many would do the same???
Buy Tiagras and go hard on the sharks!!
Markie
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Yeh well the charter did the
Yeh well the charter did the right thing and as soon as we got sharked we moved on, but yes it is a problem
carnarvonite
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Sharks
If evryone goes out all geared up to tackle sharks what are you going to do with them once you have caught them? Most of them will be too big and tough to eat, finning is illegal and to catch one just for a set of trophy jaws is just as bad.
Once you release them they will be straight back in to the fray once it has recovered and all the agitation is only going to attract more of them exactly the thing you don't want to happen.
kane
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comes back to the argument -
comes back to the argument - which marine species are ok to kill..... why are some things acceptable and others arent?
im anti whaling and wouldnt dream of hurting a dolphin or turtle or seal......but happily will kill fish, maybe kulling a few of the sharks hanging around the barges isnt a bad option,
as has been previously said they havent got anything reducing there numbers where as fish stocks are being hammered, maybe it wouldnt hurt to get rid of a few...
like everything its getting the right balance.
Gooooone Fishin!
STEVE231
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Carnarvonite, from what I've
Carnarvonite, from what I've heard so far, it's enough for me not to venture out there. Let's see if they can leave the sambo's alone!!! It will be interesting to see who does what....
Dreamtime
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bloody sharks
hey guys, completely agree with wat has already been said, was out today aswell and like hoooked said as soon as we got sharked we got bailed to another ag and we didnt have a problem, yeh we had to sacrifice the size of the sambos for another spot but everyone that hooked up got thiers to the boat in 1 piece and was released just fine, so nebraska did the right thing with that one i would say, but again everything i would of said is already said. i know i wont be goin out again till late dec when they well and truly move in.
fisho-ron
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agree with everthing said as
agree with everthing said as well,
but what are we supposed to do..... stop fishing alltogether?
i think it is fair enough to go out and try jigging and if you get sharked move on, or change gear and catch the sharks instead(if they are not monsters)if they are move on anyway
personally i have never had this happen yet and its not for the lack of trying, i have been out a few times this year allready.
not every one is getting sharked?
tell me 3 things...
1....if we all stop going will the sharks stop feeding?(yes i know they eat wounded fish) but they do hunt prey as well.
2... also how are we to know when the sharks are gone and it ok to fish again unless you test the waters so to speak.
3...if you do go out and not get sharked all day but the guy next to you does, is that ok? or should you move on?
the way things a going we might as well all sell our boats and sit at home sulking!
cheers
Dreamtime
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my breif opinion
1.i dont think so there is to many theores on that but they never stop feeding. all were doing is fattening them up and training them to be there.
2. thats wat i would do if i was the only out, otherwise i would swing past and ask them if the sharks were in.
3. as soon as I got sharked i would move.
wombat78
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how many boats go out there
how many boats go out there a day to these spots if your only moving because you got sharked well too late what would that be 30/40 fish for the sharks
another point give it a couple more years & you wont even be able to pull a fish of the bottom with out getting sharked look at exmouth over the last couple of years i was there about a month ago with mates that have lived there a long time this was my first trip back for a few years over the week we managed one bottom fish got sharked every where we moved god knows how many times but gave up just went for top fish witch were still getting taken from time to time i was never against shark fishing or finning i recon bring it back & let the indos get some as well we keep taking the food source but do nothing about the preditor dosent take einstein to figure that out surely remember personal opinion please no do gooder backlash
saltwater charters
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I went out yesterday and
I went out yesterday and didn't hang around long at the barge. Got a couple up before losing a double to sharks and moved on. Got a few skippy for the guys and no tuna.No way was I going to hang around. Cancelled todays charter as a result so no good. Really have to find a couple of inshore spots for a small school. Just spent 6 grand on gear and have 20 odd jigging charters booked so have to find an alternative to barges and Hillarys. Still going ahead for sharks on Wed so I will see what were up against.I will not kill sambos just to make the trip as will only turn around and bite you on the bum.
A good days fishing is better than ...........anything!
schecky
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What about your spot in 40m
What about your spot in 40m Craig? Fished well last time I went out with you.
MattMiller
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I'm not sure
that Exmouth is the same? We fish out from Ningaloo station every year and the sharks are quite random. We fish the same marks every year and one year it'll be full of sharks then the next year none. Out from tantabiddi could be different but thats another reason to travel further for better results.
We just need to be smart about it, although there are always the small % that ruin it for the rest. Same as everything in life really. Sharks will always be there from now on, nothing will change that.
If we do nothing expect the fisheries to shut it down in no time and in this case it wont be unjustified either, JMO.
JohnF
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Craig, mate, your attidude
Craig, mate, your attidude is excellent and I commend you for it.
Despite having my own boat, I will make a point of doing a charter with you this summer with some of the lads, this sort of professionalism is exactly what we need.
Good on ya!!!
John
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
Tandawg
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Hillarys ags
Are these ags the same as what they call North barge, South barge and Outer Patch?
Thanks in advance
abeldog
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Craig, Saltwater Charter Shines Again
Great effort Craig,
"People See Things As They Are & Ask Why???
We Can All Dream of Things That Never Were and Ask Why Not!!"( RK )
Rig
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Sharks or no sharks
Sharks or no sharks if the sambos are full of eggs then let them spawn or you will be selling your jigging gear in a few years. This is going the same way as snapper in the sound
saltwater charters
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The 40 mtr spot only good in
The 40 mtr spot only good in Jan for some reason. They must go in the shallower water later maybe for food as there is always a heap of bait/life then. I checked it out Sat but no good. I've heard there are heaps of Sambos off direction bank on pinnacles but haven't been there . Might have to do some exploring this week.
Hillarys Patch is 20 mile west of Hillarys in 105 mtrs so not N. Barge!
A good days fishing is better than ...........anything!
Tony Halliday
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firstly the skipper moved us
firstly the skipper moved us away as soon as the big tiger shark got the fist fish.
He then went to other spots, in fact several and we where not again sharked, so guys making a storm out of a tea cup.
Yes staying in the one spot would have been a slaughter, but moving between spots still allows the guys to fish and release. also nothing wrong with keeping a fish of two for tea boys.
As for closing off the breeding grounds, well before you get all hot and under the collar boys, remember that commercials are out there taking hundreds of sambos for the market as well. If you worried about breeding stock, then stop the commerical slaughter of the sambos in the Nov ~ dec months.
As for Tony the skipper on Sat, he did a great job and I would fish with him any day again.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
scotto
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abra cadabra
geez, you make some stupid comments tony.
they wont even stop the commercials/pros taking demersals during the recreational ban, so what hope in hell do we have of stopping them takin stinking old sambos??
did you think if you just say "If you worried about breeding stock, then stop the commerical slaughter of the sambos in the Nov ~ dec months", then it would magically happen?? stuff me, if it was that easy, i'd be rooting jenifer hawkins right now.
it takes proactive people (like most of us on here), to use their own discression, and go above and beyond the rules, to protect what the things that they enjoy.
Tony Halliday
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bit puzzled at your comments
bit puzzled at your comments mate, as we all acted in the best interest of the fish on the day. My comments where aimed at those that want to close the fishery off from jiggers and then still let the commercials carry on!
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Jody
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How?
I thought the commercials were no longer allowed to fish the metro zone ........
TWiZTED
carnarvonite
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Not
They're not allowed to fish between Mandurah and Lancelin
scotto
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nope.
"as we all acted in the best interest of the fish on the day". no, you did not.
if you had of acted in the best interest of the fish, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE AT ALL.
word on the street is, the sharks are peppering fish left right and centre. when its like this, the choice is simple. dont go.
the problem is, if we dont start making our own rules, and look after "our" sportfishery, then fisheries will do it for us. we all know this is true.
Markie
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mate i dont know locations
mate i dont know locations as im not a boatie but we only got sharked out deep. all the inside spots we didnt get touched by sharks. Settle with the capital letters and gettin all agro everyone has there view on things
scotto
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cheers
thats my point. the barges are the breeding grounds for sambos. they go there to breed. when the sharks are there, be somewhere else. any dcent fisherman knows when the noahs are around there.
spot on about not gettin sharked in close. you should have stayed there all day. the noahs obviously havent figured that one out. yet.
allrounder
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Here is a link for you Tony
in it it explains the commercial catch vs the rec take.They are about the same.http://researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/1686/2/02Whole.pdf It is a good read for all the newbies to the sambo aggs eg anyone that was not involved in the research in the first place.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Tony Halliday
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thanks, I have met Andrew
thanks,
I have met Andrew Roland over the years and know of his and Al's hard work on the species. The paper was very interesting and informative. Also if the fact that no commercial taking of sambos is now going on, that means about 100 tons of fish is being left back in the water to breed every year now.
I think any fish aggregation is going to surfer losses to larger predators, as that is the circle of life, no matter what we think, something always eats something else in the long run.
I agree that we should not be making it easier for the sharks, and we should be preserving our fishery and utilizing it in a sustainable way, BUT we still have the right to catch responsibly and eat some of our catch if we wish to.
JMO
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
carnarvonite
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Pros and sambos
If a sambo is caught by a wet liner or demersal netter and its still alive it goes straight back over the side. For something that takes up a great deal of icebox space and is only worth somewhere around $1 -$2. kg when you could fill the same space with a fish that is going to pay $12+kg, you are not going to keep them. Also the time taken to bring one up compared to a big dhuey or pinky is doubled if not trebled.
If you spot big fish like sambos on your sounder you don't even bother to drop a line because you know exactly what its going to be.
Tony Halliday
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I may be mistaken, but at
I may be mistaken, but at least one pro still fishes for sambos for local market and for orders. If they have been all removed that good news to us all, as they worth a lot more as a rec fish on catch & release than as a market fish.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
BlowieMasta
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Photos?
Hey fellas, sounds like nebraska showed u a good time.
Any photos from the trip posted yet?
Any one heading out this weekend??
Cheers,
Dave
Markie
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hm i got fair share of
hm i got fair share of smaller ones i took no photos but some on has photos of my big momma chomped up tho. tryin to get it. hanif had a fair few photos taken.
Tony Halliday
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I will post them up later
I will post them up later tonight guys,
got some of the shark bait anf Hanifs big ones as well.
even got that sargent baker that was almost as big as the jigg he took!!! lol... talk about a greedy guts.
The tuna on a jig in the middle of a sambo school was strange that shocked us all!
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Dreamtime
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yer no shit!
yer that tuna put up a bloody good fight for its size, marko hookt up on 1 aswell but lost it soon after, spewin.
Markie
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yeop sucks i love the way
yeop sucks i love the way tuna fight. i look forward to the day i catch a monster one if it happens :)
Dreamtime
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yep yep
yer i wanna beast yellowfin aswell ay, something around 100kg would absoloutly go like the clappers... ahhhh one day, one day
fisho-ron
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hey scotto in response to
hey scotto
in response to the barges again....not every body is getting sharked,
are you trying to tell me not to go out there, when i have not been sharked in 4or5 outings,
ok.... i am not getting the fish the others are, but its not for trying,
but if and when i do i will do the righty and move on...is that any more than we can ask??????? when you talk about people doing the right thing?
last time i checked fishing meant... putting a line in the water and hope for something to get on it,
its like a double edge sword isnt it, f***ed if you do or dont.
just 1 more question ....have you been out there and got sharked??
it does seem to be the selected few that are fishing alot, that are posting the outcomes, it might not be the case in the majority!
cheers
ron
allrounder
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The main problem is
Ron if only one 40 kilo egg bearing female is sharked it amounts to hundreds if not thousands of deaths.I can say on occasion i have been guilty of taking fish in breeding state(mainly kgs)but after a while you work out the areas to avoid if you can.We have sambo jigged for years and only lost a hand full of fish to sharks but in the last couple of years the sharks are out of control.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
fisho-ron
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yep yep, hearing you, have
yep yep,
hearing you,
have you been out there and got sharked this year?
allrounder
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Was going to go a couple of times this year
With the reports i have seen and been told i will try a smaller spot on the way to the fads later in the year.I am not saying not to target them i am saying it needs to be done differently or get a shark boat in to clean up the mess.That could just start a whole new debate.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Markie
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yeh thats all true but i
yeh thats all true but i think scotto still dont need to be so arrogant were all learning
81macca
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You may still be learning
You may still be learning hoookt but these ags have been fished for years and there are experts out there. Are they fishing the ags I haven't been out this season. Not having a go at salwater charters but they are new to the scene. Where is Al Beaven fishing, is he out there? or does he know better? ,
I actually fish.
stilly
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dont see the point of catching sambos in the first place??
what is it about sambo fishing with you blokes, catch one you have caught them all, as for targeting spawning fish? i copped it for talking about fishing dhu grounds targeting kg's, and here people are out there harassing breeding groups on purpose! leave them alone, just as many to be caught at the three mile in 15m of water, then those winches you fellas use may come in handy ;)
fisho-ron
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c'mon mate catch one catch
c'mon mate
catch one catch them all!!!!if that is the case why bother fishing at all?
1 jewy, 1 snapper, 1 baldy, etc etc, you have got 1 off everything now, so sell your boat/rods and go push prams or whatever.
it is about the sport/fun of fishing is it not.
as alot of people have said, just move when it happens, change tatics,
unless you are out there how would you know???
have you been out there??????
i would like to know out of how may people fishing the sambos/ambers and the like, in the well stated problem areas, how many have fished there and how many have been done.
also has anyone been sharked with something else on the line?
it seems to be alot of posters have not even been out there to see/try for themselfs.
so do you know what you are talikng about or is it that john, fred and rex said so,,,so it must be true.
!!!!!double edge sword!!!!!
Markie
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well said ron
well said ron
allrounder
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I dont need to go out to know what is happening Ron
the big wonderful world of the internet and mobile phones take care of all the info i need.
The reason i wont fish the barges this year is because the way i look at it is if i go out and get a fish sharked and the boat next to me gets one fish sharked and so on and on and on ect.The charter guys go and get hit and move on because it is their job and i am sure most of them will do the right thing in order to keep food on the table.I would hate to even think of the math on how many trailer boats ect hit the marks and just keep going after losing half a dozen fish.In their minds it is oh well they are only sambos. The response to your question on being sharked with anything else on the line.I have never lost a fish to sharks in the metro area apart from sambos at the patches so i feel that i dont need to add to the problem.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
hk85
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few pics from nebraska
Was a really great day out, great to meet some fellow FW members, pretty much all my mates aren't into fishing, so it was great hanging around keen fishos. Would like to meet more FW members in the future!
As mentioned, a variety of different sized sambos. My girlfriend had an absolute ball - her first time jigging and she got into a fair few all by herself!
Plenty of hookups all around, and Tony and Steve at Nebraska were great - real easy to get along with and had quite a few laughs with them. They put us on to fish and should be commended for moving as soon as the boys were sharked. I definitely rate them and would definitely be giving them a call again when organising a group fish.
Ok less talking, more pics:
Some hookups:
Loving the xzoga rod honsu!
Double hookup from marko and jamie
gf getting into it
Plenty of new gear on nebraska
Sgt Baker the size of the jig
One of Dreamtimes. Nothing compared to his one later and hookts.
big john
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Good times
Looks like you had a good time guys.
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abeldog
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The Smiling Faces
Says's it ALL.
Looks Like a Great Day Out, pity about the sharks.
Nice to hear the way the skipper operated ie moved on when sharked.
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Dreamtime
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lol
hahaha that sgt baker was classic lol, got a few decent hookups has anyone got a pic of those 2 sharked fish??? they were big! yer once again props to tony and steve for there decision to move on when we got nibbled but yer had a good day even with the wind up to 15-20 knots all day...
stilly
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ron
why fish at all?? for fun and a feed, after one sambo in my burley trail gets landed its time to pull the pick and move nothing fun in catching sambo after sambo gets old, same as skippy after skippy call me weird but love seeing variety caught
aussie_breamer
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disagree
mate, I totally disagree with you, me aswell as the majority of people on this website fish for the fun of it. the thrill of a massive fish peeling line off you and you trying to turn its head.
bream slayer
Markie
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yeh i got it james i dont
yeh i got it james i dont know how to post it on here.. there big haha and mine im devo it got chomped it bigggg :)
Tony Halliday
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ere you go
some pics on the day.
You got love the guts of that small Sgt Baker for taking on a 400g jigg..lol
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Dreamtime
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mate are you serious
stilly, are serious man?? wat u do is up to you, just because you think that way does not mean everyone else has to follow suit. its called fishing for a reason mate, its not like looking down the barrel of a gun and getting to chose which animal you shoot. fishing is a sport and people have fun catching fish weather it be a 30cm bream or a 200kg marlin, thats wat fishing is all about, having fun even if you are goin to get a feed or not, get over yourself.
Markie
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sorry stilly i think your
sorry stilly i think your wrong too. if im catchin herring all day im still enjoyin myself mate, fishin is fishin for me as long as im doin it
stilly
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bet none of your fish
have ever come back in half except those sambo's but have they boys? not in perth anyway
Dreamtime
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hmmmm ummm yer they have
ok mate ive pulled up half dhuys, tuna, snapper and have even had a shark take a herring.... so wat sharkless dream world have you been fishing in??? and yes all in metro waters
allrounder
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Hmmm Ummmmmm you need to find somewhere
else to fish buddy.It seems you lose a lot of fish to sharks.I have never lost a demersal to sharks in the metro.I guess i must by a fantastic angler hey.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
stilly
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enough said
over it
allrounder
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dito
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Tony Halliday
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Adam, time for you to put
Adam,
time for you to put your size 12 boot down on this mate.
We becoming like another website where everyone is to afraid to post fish pics in case they get bashed by the fun police and greeny brigade!
sorry I fish for fun, sport and table. If a fish gets sharked, so be it, it's part of nature, get over it. I don't go out with the intent to slaughter fish to the sharks and many here have the same ethos.
We don't need to be bashed into some one else’s green philosophy on fishing.
Thank you, respect what we do and we will respect what you do!
This is a fishing, catching and eating fish website the last time I checked.
my opinion!
Tony
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It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
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Dreamtime
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yep yep
must admit i have had bad luck in the past with those bloody sharks but i find there is way more out deep deep, thats were i usually fish and pretty sure most of you guys do to, although all the fish mentioned have been spaced out over a long period of time. and yer mate your fantasticness is just oozing out of you haha