cyclops shark captured! but still no laser
Submitted by snappermiles on Wed, 2011-10-19 07:26
www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/cyclops-shark-real-where-are-the-lasers/story-e6frg3sl-1226170299543
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Swan River Fisher
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WTF
WTF
pom down under
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same thing as i was thinking,
same thing as i was thinking, he looks like the guy out of monsters inc
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Markie
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LOL WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
LOL WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
Spicey
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Fake
I am guessing
crasny1
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No man!!!!
Thats not real at all. As a scientist/anatomist there is no way both eyes can grow forward, meet and join as one. The nerve supply to each eye is complex and served by both sides off the brain, Left visiul fiels R brain and visa versa.
Fot this to happen way to many things have to go wrong, and then right to cause this. Just not possible.
Neels
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hlokk
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*cough* The link does say it
*cough*
The link does say it was an shark foetus, not a free swimming one. So had an extreme defect. It would die pretty quick (whether inside or outside the womb)
crasny1
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Not even extreme will do that Matt
Look at any basic embroyology book and you will see that all creatures start with a 2 part folding process. A failure in this process in humans creates Spina bifida and Anenchephaly (the brain is open - cant survive that). Ie didnt meet properly at the end of the folding
Early on in the process the eyes form, and they cant migrate forward because they arise in 2 different sides. A flounders eye is weird enough as it migrates around, but to join and form one eye?? NAH.
Neels
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hlokk
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The eyes didnt migrate, there
The eyes didnt migrate, there were developmental problems with the hox genes as they were "placing" the eyes which resulted in them being placed along the midline as opposed to left/right as is common with, well, nearly all animals. So instead of two eyes forming, then moving and merging (which i'll agree is just a little absurd), the hox genes not working properly placed a single eye on the centreline that then grew. Theres been several cases of cyclopia observed in several animals so obviously it happens ;)
Also see Holoprosencephaly which affects the facial features due to a similar abnormality.
Dicko
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Says it's real
Ninemsn has a news story saying it's genuine!
Freaky as!!!
nana nana nana nana fishing!!!
crasny1
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Know all this stuff about Hox and homeobox etc
Still think its fake for sure.
Neels
PS
In all cases craniocephly you get other abnormalities like mouth and nose, which also rely on Hox genes to for. This shark looks fairly normal apart from the eye.
Dont want to go to techno with prosencephaly, mesenchephaly etc because it is complicated +++. Hence the high Miscarriage rate in humans compared with other less developed brain creatures.
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Paul H
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Result of French Nuclear
Result of French Nuclear testing in the pacific perhaps??
Now just need to catch the three eyed Simpson fish...
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Gricko
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How hard is it to get Friggin
How hard is it to get Friggin lasers on thier friggin head, I ask you..
All this working keeps getting in the way of fishing!
Ryan C
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it looks
like someones cut a hole and stuck a human glass eye in there!!! ive never seen a sharks eye like that!! cheers
Paul H
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If channel 9 is saying its
If channel 9 is saying its real then we know it has to be fake. I'm curious as to why the guy seems to be holding his hand over where the eye would normally be?? looks a bit rubbery too!!
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snappermiles
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there is a video on youtube that shows the head
without his hand on it! here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiGxyhgLKTk&feature=player_embedded
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Versus
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as crasny said if its a
as crasny said if its a homeobox defect it would afect the nose and brain aswell; it doesnt seem to have any nose but? still the eye itself looks too 'perfect', like a human eye. do a quick google images search on shark eyes and you wont find anything this perfect.
hlokk
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Definitely affected the nose
Definitely affected the nose (the side shot shows it well). Probably the brain too. The eye does look strange. Though, keep in mind, its a foetus, not a juvenile, a genetic abnormality could still mean a properly formed eye (as opposed to malformed as well as malpositioned). The eye would be more exposed than most sharks (and is being held open too), so you wouldnt expect it to look like a normal sharks eye as it sits in a normal sharks head. In most sharks, they eyes are inset a fair bit (as per a lot of animals), so you would have to compared it to an eye removed from the shark. Found a pic of a shark eye here (a bit discoloured though).
Although the eye does look rather fake, the specific mutation is not impossible and has been observed before in different species, so its something that can happen.
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Freaky as, the eye doesnt
Freaky as, the eye doesnt look like that of a fish anyway.. looks human. Still not sold on it..