Record WA Bass Groper
Submitted by Kasey L. on Sun, 2009-06-28 23:33
Latest WAFM front cover - the new state record Bass Groper
Skipper and photographer Ryan Thipthorp.
Caught wide, wide out of Perth.
650g Sanme jig
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now that is one monster from
now that is one monster from reeeeeeeeeeeeeel deep, congrats on that one, must have given you one almighty fight. sort of fish we could only dream about. tell us the truth Kasey that one was photoshoped,...... but seriously well done makes Ryans look like a sardine
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how many kg? how deep? fair
how many kg?
how deep?
fair effort to lift it!!!
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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prefering
I work the 200-500m depths, that fish prefering the deeper end of that scale!
Brody
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Crazy! That's a cracker.
Crazy! That's a cracker.
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WHOA...
that is some fish, the fish of a lifetime. congrats kasey and ryan, well done.
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That is one crazy
That is one crazy fish!
Well done lads.
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Holy crap! Wow, great fish
Holy crap! Wow, great fish Kasey!
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one
One word to describe it "BIG"
kane
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That is a farkn sweet fish!
Not much point having photo of the month comp with this one in the running...
Gooooone Fishin!
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What a ripper, now thats
What a ripper, now thats worth the trip and on jig, all the better .Well done kasey and Ryan,look faward to the artical.
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Bugger me
Bugger me
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Trick photography
How the hell do you hold up a fish that big with a smile on your face. Trick photography I say. What was the weight.
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pure adrenalin. my back was
pure adrenalin. my back was broken for the week
101 pounds.
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you cant see
but ryan must be hiding behind the groper helping him hold it up LOL
Awsome catch kasey . Some severe barotrauma on the skin on that hey
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ha ha
Had a chuckle at that one Neil
That fish was supprising, it gave KC bigtime curry all the way and pissed out 80lb braid
with a very very tight drag (i tested after the capture)
It gave up on the last 30m, the body did suffer.....so did KC back the next day LOL
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Good to see its out of the
Good to see its out of the bag now Kasey, better go find my copy of that mag!
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great fish Kasey!!!
great fish Kasey!!! huge!!
Lol amazing how many people knew about it before it got to the front cover!
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Quality
Well done Kasey, a real big oogly from the deep that one.
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Great stuff Kasey
A State record. That's awesome. What tackle were you using?
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Huge
Thats one hell of a fish congrat's to the boys awesome...........
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Fark.....
What a beast...Great work lads!
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Awesome
Awesome fish and effort Kasey.
Was wondering if you would be able to keep it quiet until the mag came out. Saw mention of the record application in the AAA minutes as well.
Your article will be a good read as well.
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Man oh man
what a fish. With the eyes bulging one big golfish for the bowl!
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Awesome capture boys , well deserved !!!
Just one more cast , honest !!!
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Once again KC, TOP CATCH!
Once again KC, TOP CATCH! Oh and to Ryan too for putting you on the spot.
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Well done
Absolute ripper, might take a while for the state record to be broken again by the looks!!!
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wow wow and wow
gongrats kc and ryan that is a dead set sea monster how long did it take to dredge that up guys definetly one of a kind fishin that well done
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THATS MASSIVE!
Great effort there KC thats a once in a life timer right there.
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Hey Ryan you should get a
Hey Ryan you should get a mould made of it so you can hang it in your shop!
Awesome catch Kasey, and great team work!
That is one insane catch.
Cant wait for the next WAFM.
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hinesight!
Hinesight should of done somethink Dasho (next time LOL), as for the WAFM cover and magazine..... came out well.....quality!
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Great effort and a well deserved catch
Simply stunning capture Kasey. My hat is off to you, you certainly have the knack of landing the big boys.
Well done Ryan too, all your time on the water pays off. I know how stoked you are to see your crew get into a big fish, and that will take some topping for sure.
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bejesus!
thats beyond huge! thatd feed a whole suburb! good onya KC and ryan! looks like the deep has become your new shallow water!
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Stonka!
Looking forward to the details in the article - congrats again Kasey and Ryse. Awesome capture.
Cheers Pete
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Stionker.................
Stionker.................
Looking forward to the Read in the Mag>!
Done well
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Ahoy there
Are you still at Ravo Cam? been onto any god fish since then?
this new roster I am on does not allow me to get out as much as the 8 and 6 roster.
Working at boddngton gold mine, at the moment then transfering to Karratha, which should help the fishing addiction quiet well.
C ya
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do you work for uniteds??
do you work for uniteds??
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monster
Well done Ryan and Kacey!
What an awesome fish and on a jig as well! Must be the old 100 pounder for sure!!
Cant wait to see the mag.
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frigging huge
congrats Kasey/Ryan
no need to say any more
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thats it'''''' I'm giving up
thats it'''''' I'm giving up fishing and going to join the bingo club!!!!!
Well done KC and Ryan
thats going to take years to beat, if ever!!!!
ps how deep??? as it looks like that one came up from 200m+++ by the size of it's eyes!
cheers
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I want that eye for a
I want that eye for a snowglobe!!
Well done guys
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Big. Real big!
Thats one serious fish. Well done lads!
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HOly Crap!
HOly Crap!
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Speechless
Ummmm!!yeah!!nice!!real nice!!
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bloody hell what a
bloody hell what a ripper.well done KC and ryan
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awsome awsome awsome kc.
awsome awsome awsome kc. good on ya ryan, your time & effort on the water, pays of everytime...........
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Holly shit thats what you
Holly shit thats what you call a fish, congrats
Looking forward to the read.
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Wow! awesome man..
Wow! awesome man..
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Top work to youz! Anygood on
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that is a huge fish , did
that is a huge fish , did it go back into the water or probs not due to the eyes popping out of its head ? it looks pretty spent , great fish but a shame big fish like that should be let to roam and breed !
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Great Eating Mark
Ryan bought some over a few weeks ago for us - one of my favourite tasting fish now.
Just have to get out and catch my own now.
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Awesome
Great work Ryan and Kasey. Awesome photo, Awesome fish, Awesome skipper, Awesome jigging, Awesome fishing all round. Congrats to both of you.
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Congrats
Fellas, sounds like a team effort. Adrenalin pumping for sure Kasey. Great catch, well done bud.
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Congrats guys. a fish of a
Congrats guys. a fish of a life time, and deffinently a POTM winner.
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bloody hell you dont see
bloody hell you dont see fish like that everyday
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awsome fish Kasey how much
awsome fish Kasey how much did it beat the old record by?
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speechless
...
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once again awsome catch....
once again awsome catch.... will there be any need to vote on june pic of the month
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Big Bass Grouper!
I showed this pic when i first took it to one of the big boses at Furuno. He does alot of fishing and I knew he would spin out. I didnt say i took the pic it I just said "46kg Bass Grouper on jig " he said after looking at the picture....no way Ryan thats 46kg.....I then said its my friend/on my boat and I took the pic....."he then said OK well then its for real"
KC, adrenalin was pumping fast, I said you may only have one crack at holding it but i'll be quick with my camera. That he did, I only got two good pics one being the front cover and the other the insert full page. After that he lost his strength and I tried to help him but we both struggled to lift the fish & get a good picture. After knowing I got a front cover it didnt matter!
Bloody awesome fish and a New State record, weighed with my digital scales then we did the certified ones for the record and I think it was 200grams in it. Spewin it missed the Australian record by a few kilos only (i think 48kg)
Kasey is a very dedicated jigger and a good fisherman. I admire his jigging pursuits and we had an awesome 3 months of nailing many quality fish on jigs!
Gonna take a while to beat that baby, I've got a big 130l plus Ice box on my boat and the head & tail couldnt fit in only the stomach when we"stuffed it it" LOL
Thanks for the comments guys!
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Great stuff just got the
Great stuff just got the magazine. ,,99.9% of Anglers will never see a fish like that in the flesh i reckon.
(Good beginners article on yak fishing as well in there)
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niche!
Thats why it will be a big seller.....the niche content!
I've got a fair few customers that are getting these fish on bait but smaller sizes ie up to 30kg, they're now pumped up to use jigs
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thats huge
that makes my biggest mulloway a few years ago of 16kg look like a whitting lol,anyways congratulations on the state record,thats 1 hell of a fish of a lifetime,only dreams are made off
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whatta horse, well done
whatta horse, well done kasey and ryan!
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u holding that up ur self
u holding that up ur self casey thought u would blow an oring at 46kg .awsome fish mate.
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apparently you can get fish
apparently you can get fish like this only 6-8 mile out off Albany??? (IE: Bass groper, dunno about this big tho!!) anyone know if thats the case?
allrounder
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Good Fish
Top effort from that deep.Am i crazy or are bass groper over 1meter or 30kg a protected species (not stirring shit)just not shore if they are the same as grey bandeds and halpuka thats all.Cracker of a fish any who.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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nope!
Only Greybanded thats under that rule down here!
allrounder
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sweet as
just didnt know if they are the same cat that was all .We might go out for a jig some day soon
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
allrounder
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Just rang a mate who fishes
with me from time to time and he is a bit pissed at me now.He got one about 35 to 40 ish and put it back thinking it was over the size limit .Just broke his heart when i told him it was ok to bring back.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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regs!
Yeh I went through all this with the Fisheries to clarify deepwater species & regulations etc when i started targeting these fish a while ago!
The WA Fisheries Officer admitted at how the rules arent clean cut for understanding the deepwater species especially the 1m (30kg) rule. The bag limit is an umbrella/combined of all these species ie harp/bass/blue eye /grey and only 2 fish per person!
allrounder
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Just rang him back
to hit him up for some ground to try and he told me to pi## off and hung up on me because i had told him that all the deep fish over a meter or 30 kg had to go back .Maybe they should just make that the blanket rule and take all the confusion out of it then K C s record will stand a long time
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
hlokk
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A quick check says bass
A quick check says bass groper is Polyprion moeon and the 30kg limit applies to Epinephelus species. Might need one of those comprehensive ID books to check what is and what isnt allowed to be kept?
allrounder
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I think
bass grouper is polyrion americanas or something like that
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Bass are;
Ephinephelus species over 1m or 30kg are protected ie CODS!
Bass are Polyprion!
I went through all this with the Fisheries ages ago!
hlokk
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I think the rules are easy
I think the rules are easy enough to follow.... as long as you know the species name (well, genus)
You dont hear about the deepwater ones as much though, so i'm pretty clueless on species names. Common names can be pretty confusing with Epinephelus sp. (I.e. a lot, or most are known, perhaps elsewhere as groupers).
Ryan, I'm guessing gray-banded cod is indeed Epinephelus?
allrounder
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that is what i was just saying
it is Polyprion americanas or something along those lines which is not protected.I am not questioning your integrity on the matter just clearing it up in my own mind.Is it americanas or the one that Hlokk called it?
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
hlokk
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I think it would be
I think it would be americanas going by the link posted below. I told you it was a quick check :p.
Though fishbase says they dont live here. Though, that map isnt always 100% coverage. Hopefully Ryan can elaborate when he gets a chance.
Anyways, as Ryan mentioned, bass gropers are of the Polyprion genus, and its only cods (the Epinephelus genus) that are protected. Any q's on the specific species, I dont have a clue.
offroad fisher
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polyprion americanas
polyprion americanas according to the wa state fishing records
http://www.aaawa.iinet.net.au/StateFishingRecords.html
allrounder
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so it is also called a wreckfish
the same as the one seansurfy caught a while back?Did you get it aged Ryan?From the info on that site it could well be around 70 years old.I hope my eyes dont look like that when im 70
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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?
Old fish yes, you'll need to ask KC but dont think so!~
allrounder
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Im still waiting
on the age of a couple of fish to come back from a while back.Sent a couple more off a couple of weeks back will be interesting info .
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
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Pretty sure wreckfish is
Pretty sure wreckfish is Hapuka, Bass groper are different.
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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!!
Ephinephelus species over 1m or 30kg are protected ie CODS!
Bass are Polyprion
Yes americanus
Caught here & many other areas!
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Big Bass stomach content!
I asked KC to check the gut content out, his big old Bass had a WHOLE 2 and a half foot "long" whip tail stingray in its guts....gutza!!
allrounder
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they must be very good
hunters to find a feed in that darker water no wonder they nail a well presented jig.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
offroad fisher
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didnt you just say it had a
didnt you just say it had a 1 1/2 foot stingray??
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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whip tail!
Yes, then i remebered KC said the whip tail was about 1 1/2 long with the main body being about a foot.
All up, 2 and half foot long......Big appetite for a big fish eh
Wally
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That fish would be more
That fish would be more then 70 years old, what scares me is people putting it on front covers of friggn magazines, there is no science on these suckers out of Perth, I urge and plead with guys careful what ya do, please, all this talk and happy giving info will shoot everyone down, and yes before ya make claim to a record, i know guys who have been fishn for these fish for 30 years, it isn't new, sadly now it is no secrete and a free for all all for glorification and money.
Wal
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Certified pic!
The happy angler Kasey Leong (KC)...one of many certified pics we had to take!
46kg on Jig, ground braking!!
Faulkner Family
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with all the talk someone
with all the talk someone had to try and stis s#$t, thanks wally, are you just jealous or what?.dont try and take the glory out of it for Kasey he has done well. as far as the size goes it is only the cod species that have the limit , however the grey banded should be excluded from that ruling as no way will they survive going back
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