Solar Panel system
Submitted by Stewk on Mon, 2015-03-23 11:55
Guys,
Anyone running a solar panel on the roof of their hardtop?
Keen to see or hear about any setups out there, what's good and bad....
Very interested in what kind of mounts / controller etc.
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Feral
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I dont run one on my boat
I dont run one on my boat yet but i have 2 panels on my car .. they are both 130w each running into a ctek dual controller and then into 2x 120ah deep cycles .. i used this to go off grid while traveling up north . They power a 110lt waeco fridge/freeze and a mountain of led lights i have set up on my camper frame . I had inverters and laptops phone etc all charging too
dano83
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does this set up keep your
does this set up keep your batteries charged, or just give you extended battery time?
also is it straight solar? or hooked up to alternator/12vcharger as well.
sorry to hijack, I am looking at doing something similar as not happy with current set up.
cheers
sammy85
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I don't have one yet but
I don't have one yet but going to sort one out soon want to be able to run engel and boat fridge off the panels. Was leaning towards a 150watt flexible panel. Get the off eBay for around $400.00
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Rocktron
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pm Jarrid
pm my brother Jarrid. He has recently done this to his hardtop
stuklose
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Same setup as a
Same setup as a camper/caravan. Use either the Redarc or ctek(doesn't cope with heat too well) connected to boat motor and solar. They incorporate an mttp controller so will charge from alternator first then switch to solar when no current is detected from alternator. They give a constant amperage. Tried the ctek and didn't like being under the bonnet, then installed a 40amp redarc in prado and a 25amp in my camper and could stay camped for for 9 days with a 140 amp panel running two fridges, lights, water pump and tablet/laptop off 1 120amp agm. Easy to setup.
Stewk
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Thanks Stuklose
Thanks Stuklose
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jarrid
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Got a panel 220w off ebay
Got a panel 220w off ebay (Melbourne seller) and a dual charge controller from ebay as well. Got all the mounting brackets, cables etc locally from 12v shop in kewdale. I mistakingly set it up with the controller from the panel running to the other controller, but It seems to work great now that I have ditched the panel controller and only use the dual controller.
Lastchance
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Hey Stewk,Ive got 2 80W
Hey Stewk,
Ive got 2 80W panels on the hard top with separate regulators going to a house battery each with a cole hersey switch between them to parallel them up when in use. Ive also got a Red Arc VSR going to the common of the CH switch as well so when the motor is on, that charges the house batteries as well. Definitely worth the effort, especially if you have a large current draw (Electronics, fridges, lights, amps for stereos etc) and you bottom fish or overnight on the boat. Good piece of mind as well.
There is no doubt better ways to do it but the set up I got was at a good price so Ive done it that way.
I could scratch a diagram up if you wanted, bit easier than trying to explain it
Daisy
scotto
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I am just going throughthis now.
an ark pack, with a 100A/H battery, to a 120w solar panel (with an MPPT controller), powering a 60l engel on full freeze.
the solar panel is impressive, it produces enough charge to not only run a 60litre engel on full freeze, but also can re-charge the battery from 50% to full as well! basically with the panel plugged in to the ark pak, the battery stays full, AND powers the engel!
Subaquatic
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What Panels did you end up
What Panels did you end up going with?
scotto
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dis one
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/360466559807?nav=SEARCH
I looked at that one and the one from outbax camping on ebay. I settled on this one as it has the mppt controller, but the other one looked like it had a better frame.
Im glad i chose the one i did.
Subaquatic
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Cheers!
Cheers!
Stewk
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Thanks guys sounds exactly
Thanks guys sounds exactly what I need.
Have you got any picks of the solar panels on the roof.
I was more concerned about how they mount as well.
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Lastchance
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Internally turned alli angle
Internally turned alli angle (Mounted to the side and turns inward for neatness), prep the roof correctly and Grey sicka it on there - dont drill holes for fixings, they will inevitably leak and ruin the headlining and what ever is beneath the roof. Might sound dodgy, but it works extremely well and Ive never had anything come loose.
Daisy
Stewk
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Lastchance - Yeah that is
Lastchance - Yeah that is what I was hoping, sika is amazing sh$t.
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Rob H
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something to be aware of with
something to be aware of with the panels is that a panel mounted flat on the hard top will only produce about 2/3 of a panel on the ground and moved 3 times a day.
I have a 120W mounted on my boat and experimented with it quite a bit both in my driveway and at the Abrolhos.
My 120W panel with MPPT controller will produce about 7.5 amps tops at about 14 volts but that is only for a couple of hours at midday.
On each side of that it drops away unless you tilt it to the sun as with camping on its frame.
My 120W panel which is producing not far off its theoretical rating (7 times 14=105W)
My Waeco uses around 5 amps while running but averages at around 4AH at full freeze, 12 hrs without sun at night is 48AH, half the charge of a 120AH AGM battery.
So it wont keep the Waeco going AND provide a significant charge unless I "follow the sun" which obviously is only practical when tied up and you can be bothered.
So I have setup my twin outboards so I can put both to charge the AGM and together put 40 amps at idle into it which only a AGM type battery will accept.
An hour of trolling for trout on a windy day will put a significant charge back into it also.
Also of note is that many wont produce a high enough voltage to fully charge an AGM which needs 14.7V rather than 14.2 for a standard lead acid.
This are my observations from actually playing with the panel and recording it (as engineers tend to do
) and some fridges are more economical-its just my observations
I made up a roof rack type frame on top of my boat which holds the panel.
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Vinesh87
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I run my panels through a
I run my panels through a Ctek stage charger ( Solar input with stage charging and voltage boost) for this exact reason!
These charge from the best availabe power source, Solar, Alternator or 240! I am stoked with mine 3 years down the track!
D250S Dual is the model!
Stewk
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Hey RobH - Great info and
Hey RobH - Great info and thanks.
My current setup is:
Starboard engine charges starboard battery only
Port Engine Charges Port Start battery and then house on VSR.
When engines off all batts are isolated.
Was think I want to put a panel on to charge the house only, to cover fridge electronics etc.
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Rob H
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I looked into changing the
I looked into changing the battery switch setup closely before I modified the setup, and now have it setup so the house supply isolation switch (off-pt-both-stb) draws from the outboard side of the pt/stb battery isolation (no house battery).
Then if you put house switch on both, pt battery isolation off and stb on, both outboards start, run and charge stb battery which is the AGM.
The potential problems are that when the battery is near charged the regulators can fight each other as they sense the battery voltage.
However this isnt a problem when the battery is at a low state of charge and I can put a good boost in it just pulling lures around for a bit or going to jerk the craypots at the islands.
What you suggest above would work fine but you dont need to get too fancy-a 140W panel with MPPT regulator from Bitdeals Ebay is $250 delivered and are quite good quality (my 120W is still good after 2 years) though the price has gone up.
I modified mine by gently prying the regulator of the panel (sikeflexed) and putting the long cable to the remote reg near the battery.
This minimises volt drop and also keeps it out of the weather.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-12V-140W-FOLDING-SOLAR-PANEL-KIT-MONO-CARAVAN-BOAT-CAMPING-POWER-BATTERY-/360466559785?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item53ed7b3329
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Stewk
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Thanks mate you are a
Thanks mate you are a champion!!
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petermac
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you blokes going solar
don't buy those crap Chinese systems of ebay spend the extra money and get your self a BP solar panels we used them for years on the nav aids in Hampton harbor and never ever had 1 fail also remember you must run a regulator (bp make a good 1) and another thing to keep in mind is 10% coverage (another words bird shit dust or general muck) on your panel means 90 % lose of efficiently
Subaquatic
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10% coverage (another words
10% coverage (another words bird shit dust or general muck) on your panel means 90 % lose of efficiently
Not so much any more Petey!
The latest generation of panels are a series parallel cell arrangement, and offer much higher redundancy. Possibly not the cheap ebay panels though.