Skipper crashes into Jetty
This 7m vessel collided with the jetty at JoJo's Cafe, causing extensive damage to the boat and jetty. Picture: Nine News Source: PerthNow
A MAN is in hospital after his boat smashed into a jetty at JoJo's cafe in Nedlands this morning.
The 7.2m vessel collided with the jetty about 1.30am, causing extensive damage to the vessel and to the jetty.
The skipper of the boat was taken to Royal Perth Hospital for treatment for chest injuries and a knock to the head.
Insp Steve Bradley said police divers were called in to make sure there were no other passengers on the vessel.
"The vessel has taken on water and is in danger of sinking," he said.
"It is not known at this time how or why the collision occured, and police and marine officers will investigate the matter."
absolute mess,
read on Perthnow today.
All this working keeps getting in the way of fishing!
Tony Halliday
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um why are you doing WOT (
um why are you doing WOT ( wide open throttle) at night and then hit a jetty that hard!!!
and everyone says you an experienced skipper???
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9292910/boat-hits-nedlands-jetty-skipper-injured/
Seems he has a lot of explaining to do and is dam lucky to be alive!
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milsey
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There is a 8kn speed limit
There is a 8kn speed limit at night in the swan.
Tony Halliday
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100% correct and looking at
100% correct and looking at that damage he was NOT doing 8knots for sure!!!!
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Rick
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Nasty
That is one nasty accident, lucky to be alive,fortunately only person on the boat as well.
That is a well lit jetty, there will be reason behind this mess, insurance bill is going to be huge.............
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grantarctic1
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Could be worse
I think he is very lucky, not only for himself but what if people had been on that jetty.
I see boats flogging around at night all the time and this is what i dread . Being hit by one of these "experienced" boaters.
Lucky it was a jetty and not a boat full of people .
PS. I hope there is a reason and not just operator error .
TAPOUT
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Funny how everone instantly
Funny how everone instantly jumps to conclusions without having a clue what accualy happened. Maybe throttle stuck on? who knows. We are very quick to condem everybody without just being grateful that the guy wasnt killed.
uncle
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agree sometimes
throttle stuck on!!!! 101 turn off key
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The_Wanderer
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Good point tappout mecury
Good point tappout mecury have just recalled there Mercury Verados for a similar issue.
Tony Halliday
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thats what kill switch's are
thats what kill switch's are for! and as for stuck throttle, well it's a 8knot limit, even if it stuck wide open you go around in circles not head into a jetty...
Stop defending a crash that was plainly caused by speed. Too many people in this state make excuses for others dam stupid actions!
JMO
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Ryan C
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not to mention
the restuarant has no access now other than that skinny sevice jetty with no handrails!!!
bod
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no access and
no electricity and no gas and weekends full of weddings, some booked up to 2 years ago which have had to be cancelled. An accident with BIG insurance repercussions.
Faulkner Family
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anything is possible. there
anything is possible. there is a chance he was drunk or even fell asleep at the helm. either way it happened it has caused a load of damage. try explaining this one to the insurance company. depending on circumstances it may not even be covered if found recklesness
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Just1morecast
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wouldnt want to be his
wouldnt want to be his deckie, driver might ask for service costs aswell as repair costs haha!
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DieHard
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ahahahahhaha +1 !!!
ahahahahhaha +1 !!!
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MattMiller
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Bravo Sha
Bravo
*APPLAUSE*
stilly
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....+2
very funny, hope the guy was okay
Scotte
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there must be more to the
there must be more to the accident than meets the eye.. surely!!
Tony Halliday
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well looks like the Freo
well looks like the Freo Refueling vessel has gone and done even better by crashing into the Freo Railine bridge and lodging itself on the pylon.
Anyone see it this morning???
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TAPOUT
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Im not saying it wasnt caused
Im not saying it wasnt caused by speed Tony as it likely was. But there are so many possibilities that could have happened to cause this accident. the poor guy could have had a heart attack and knocked the throttle when falling over or just knocked the throttle then fell backwards and couldnt get up in time. But you have obviously made up your mind and convicted this guy already so there you go.
TAPOUT
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Time will tell
Time will tell
Tony Halliday
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sorry mate, I have strong
sorry mate, I have strong feeling on the very easy and simple test we do here to get our skippers license!
Too bloody easy to get that piece of plastic with 4m rubber duck test and then go and buy a 8m + 400hp / 40knot cruise missile to tear around with. Last week end watched a tool nearly put a 10m $600k boat into the marina wall and other boats at Ascot, cause he could not control it and had no idea how to dock his new toy!!!!
And to many people being called experienced sailors out there and they have not even got the basic idea of keeping to the right in the river ways. First Cardinal Rule!...
I hope for him it was a mechanical issue or something, but if I put my HSV V8 through a garden wall and into a house and left a trail of destruction behind me in a 50km/hr zone at night, what would you say??? give the hoon a benefit of the doubt, his brakes failed, his foot slipped, the throttle stuck??? Oh he fell asleep at the wheel and …… how many more excuses do we give people.
That boat did not just go from zero to well into the 20+ knots range in seconds, it was traveling well before the impact at some speed.
As for the truth, we will never know. hopefully some surveillance footage in the area will tell the story !
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mannablue
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Tapout's sorta got a point
Tapout's sorta got a point there.
I'll relate an incident a good buddy of mine had, he's diabetic and hadn't been keeping an eye on his insulin levels while out in the tub and into a hot bite.
Anyway he's started feeling crook, got his needles and what not out but passed out in the process, driving his boat up onto a beach full of tourists. They've all rushed over, seen the needles and called the cops saying a junkie's just beached his boat...
Things aren't always what they seem.
I hope its just actions of a knobend and not something like a heart attack etc. That would be most unfortunate.
Not all who wander are lost...
Rod P
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If you lost control at speed
If you lost control at speed good chance the motor would turn away and the boat would just run in circles. Sad to say i'm with Tony and i'd put money on a not paying atten, speed and disorientation. If your disoriented for health reasons you should stop driving, or at least slow right down.
As you can see its a American boat as well. Thats possibly a good cause. Not designed to hit our jetties.
dkonig82
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Surprised that nobody
Surprised that nobody mentioned the possibility that the guy might have been pissed!
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n+1 (where n is the number of fishing rods you currently own); or
n-1 (where n is the number of fishing rods which would cause your significant other to dump you.
stilly
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come on rod
that aint a boat thats going to have a cable??!! that would have hydraulic steering that would sail straight if you left the wheel hope the bloke wasn't irresponsible and his insurance company helps him
Rod P
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The boat looks to me to be a
The boat looks to me to be a Maxum Cruiser and whether, cable or not will be a single V8. Ever driven one or let go of the steering on a big single V8. I'm not talking about letting go for seconds the conspiracy argument is that it could have been a heart attack so let go of the steering for a over 20 seconds and see were it ends up.
Even my boat with twins will wonder after a short stint of no hands action.
By the by its obvious IMHO what caused the accident..
This just goes back to my argument that there should be consequences to bad or incorrect behavior. Go break the law, perform what can only be seen as stupid and get your insurance to pay. SO in turn we all then pay in the long run. Go out and break the fishing laws and get a written warning only. SO eventually total bans mean we all have to pay. I'm just sick of paying for other people's in ability to do the right thing.
iana
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Is this the boat?
Just opened the web site to Jojo's cafe, theres a photo in the Aqua viva page and in it is a boat moored at the jetty that looks very similiar.
PS my boats cable, and I run hands off most of the time.
stilly
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agreed
can do that with a non return helm with cable.....boat that size highly unlikely to be cable!
Rod P
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Let go of the wheel when
Let go of the wheel when driving you should use a Auto Pilot. That's what they are for.
Non Feed back is not for no hands driving. Oh and with hands of what happens when the bow drops into a trough? At speed? How many of you keep your hands of the wheel then..
I can take my hands of my car wheel as well and it drives straight, for a bit anyway. If i did and i hit another car should my insurance pay up?
Tony Halliday
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would love to see the water
would love to see the water police report, remembering we have bugger all laws in WA to breath test a skipper, unless he is reckless! ( a little tweety bird says he was very much ........) can't reviel my source, but very reliable source!
Not like the east coast where you need to be under 0.05 to be at the helm of a boat! Time for WA to change it's laws and catch up me thinks////
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Vent
Time for you to vent all your energy on the metro fish stocks Tony and hit us up with a report.
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scotto
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HAHA B.J.!!!
tony, why dont you tell, sorry, REMIND us how right you are with the cyclone prediction, marine parks, fish stocks, blood alcohol limit in boats, why refueling tankers shouldnt be allowed in our rivers, yada yada far ken yada!
someone please change the name of this website to fishwhinge.com.
Tony Halliday
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Scotto, wait for the police
Scotto, wait for the police statement thats all i'm saying for now on the Jetty Skipper
And wait for the Marines Impact Report and Swan Trusts response to the Fueling vessel,
and BJ, hey we caught our fish two week ago, posted the pic and ate it...
Watch this space for my winter fishing report
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Colt_Striker
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I find it laughable how
I find it laughable how judgemental & quick you are to jump on others action, also whinge about what they will cost you. We're you not the poor guy who lost a boat & claimed insurance, got paid out from a questionable action of charging a batery in an enclosed space???? just my humble observations over the past 12 months mate.
Tony Halliday
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one, get the facts mate,
one, get the facts mate, battery charger was on the back deck and not enclosed space, the charger overheated and set fire to the carpet. ( yes i have learned my lesson and will never again charge with a battery charger that is not on a concrete floor,
two, how many witnesses would you like to talk to that helped with the insurance claim and police report I had to do...??? Did you think they just wrote out a cheque without a full investigation and dam hard look at my actions???
three, And as for the boat vs jetty, I know some of the facts not in the public domain, so do some of the fishwrecked members here as well, so lets just say we will let the rule fo law take it way and hopefully tell you all the truth! ( unfortunately rules do not allow you to tell the truth on these websites quiet often, till the info is in the full public domain...)
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Colt_Striker
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Tony I wasn't for 1 second
Tony I wasn't for 1 second infering you had done something dodgy for an insurance calim. As for the facts well, I was just going by how I remembered them & what I had heard from "OTHERS" so yes may not have had them in the correct sequence or totally accurate, like what people are doing on this thread. I was simply poitning out to ERR is HUMAN & some more than others should understand this & show a little more compassion. As with others comments about car speeding, insurance etc well I guess they are all Saints & angels & have never done anything wrong. They must be the people that over take others doing around 105 kph @ 110Kph on the HWY leagally rather than speeding up that little bit more to 120 KPH to do it safely & consider the other road users behind them.
Anyway I'm going fishing, cause the weathers great & that's supposed to be what the sites about
Tony Halliday
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No worries mate, I over
No worries mate, I over reacted.
But this is not comments about someone doing 45km/hr in a 40km/hr speed zone as an example, it about doing the equivalent to 200km/hr in a school zone!
YES fishing is great idea, but work has me by the neck till Sunday and the weather seems to want to ambush my plans as well
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Rod P
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So Col_Striker just a simple
So Col_Striker just a simple question. If i go out and drive my car into a building or take out some one else's Car whilst speeding and breaking the law should my Insurance pay me out for my loss? If your answer is no then why would they pay me out on the water.
Commonsense whilst looking at the photo you can tell he was going faster than 8 knots and that is breaking the law.
hemi
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Nice point there...
Nice point there...
Lastchance
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Gday Tony, the boat looks
Gday Tony, the boat looks like it was quite expensive. Might of been one of those $400,000 for 28 weeks work welders out for a spin!......or an engineer!
Seriously mate, you're too much fun and very well informed.
I think you are cool, Slinky.
Tony Halliday
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lol not commenting on the
lol not commenting on the guys work or earnings...
ps Slinkies rule the stairs..lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MQhWI85fAs
not all is what it seems to be...lol
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
crasny1
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All I can say is simple
Whatever the bloody cause the end point was "speed"!!
This boat was travelling at some speed to do that much damage to the boat and jetty. I cant see how this could be questioned in anyway. As a former Rally Australia safety officer my role was mechanism of accident investigation, ie how did it happen and what caused it, especially if someone was injured. It gives you a sense of the forces involved to cause certain damage. Now I am by no way an expert with Fglass but with metals I would say I have a fair idea, and the metal in the jetty is mangled to say the least, ie big force.
Whatever led to the creation of this "big force", ie whether he was just speeding, drugged, drunk etc I wont comment on, because that is not my or our role, but the role of the water/police and other authorities.
JMO
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Man Overboard
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I think most of you blokes
I think most of you blokes are missing the point here, Big Time !!
How lucky is the guy who was supposed to be getting married on the weekend,
Boat hits jetty, wedding gets cancelled, Groom stays single, Winrar !!
The skipper may well be prosecuted, but he'll be recieving a lotto ticket in the mail with a thank you card.
carps
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gold
I think that the groom would be suggesting they help a little with the costs!
crasny1
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LOL
But can you imagine the furry from the bride to be. I think I would have rather got married than cop that flak, because no doubt she would be blaming him.
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