Proposed 8 or 9 month demersal bans - e-petition
Submitted by selthy on Sun, 2022-08-28 10:25
E-petition has just been launched. www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Parliament/LCePetitions.nsf/petitions/22-0020
There was a rather good discussion on 7's Flashpoint this morning. Worth a look www.facebook.com/flashpoint7WA
Blackgold
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E Petition
Have sent in
Tom M
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You can keep up with the
You can keep up with the action on this FB page
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Jim
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That wasnt hard to do! The
That wasnt hard to do! The facebook link doesnt work for me.
Thanks fellas
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uncle
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All
Done
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Curndog
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I've sent that to every
I've sent that to every fisho I know. Everyone on here should do the same. Ppl don't agree with this shit but they also expect someone else to fight it. I put my hand up for that aswel. Not this time
wagyl
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Done and
spread the word
Adam Gallash
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Signed
Signed
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wrasse magnet
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9 month ban or 363 day ban?
So is it going to be a 9 month ban or a 363 day ban? Question 14 asks the respondents the following:
hezzy
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which is exactly why it is
which is exactly why it is better to email the premier, minister punch and your local member direct ,,
telling them exactly that and more
petitions are ok , but it has more impact to email direct ,, as often and as many as you like
its up to recs to actually do that in masses , or others will have their say and we all will be shut out again
i cant urge people strongly enough to get active ,, even an email every week to the above
hezzy
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wrasse magnet
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Abolutely! BTW, DPIRD
Abolutely!
BTW, DPIRD responded to me with my question whether they will oppose dredging of Cockburn Sound for the outer harbour, their response is they have a $13.5 million research project to inform those decision!
It's a f'n bad idea and I don't think we need to spend millions of dollars to work that out!. How about the governments saves the tax payers dollars and puts a fork in the development which would be a policy decision consistent with the onjectives of these current demersal fishing proposals.
Moondog
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The outer harbour is a big
The outer harbour is a big factor in the proposed demersal closure. WHEN not IF that project starts they are gonna to kill a massive number of fish and putting in the closure will help them fudge the numbers that they haven't killed as many as everyone says. They will be able to say demersal stocks are still recovering so the outer harbour hasn't done damage.
davewillo
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I don't know that would have
I don't know that would have informed the decision but it certainly wont hurt them to help cover up snapper losses.
PGFC member and lure tragic
Moondog
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Yeah I probably shouldn't
Yeah I probably shouldn't have said big factor.
davewillo
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Certainly convenient for
Certainly convenient for them though Moondog.
PGFC member and lure tragic
wrasse magnet
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9 month ban or 363 day ban?
So is it going to be a 9 month ban or a 363 day ban? Question 14 asks the respondents the following:
Moondog
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Signed up and passed it on
Signed up and passed it on to as many fishers as I know. I have just received an email from recfishwest promoting this petition, well done to them. We need to pressure these dictators as much as possible and from every angle possible
Rob H
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Minister has announced an
Minister has announced an extension to the consultation period by a couple of weeks.
They are at least hearing the noise
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
piscetor
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waste of time
Your wasting your time sending an email to the premier, it will automaticly be sent to Punch ( at least he will get it ) I sent an email to the premier about the royalties we get from iron ore mining. It went straight the the mines minister and didn't even cross McGowans desk. My bitch was that the iron ore belongs to the people of WA and we should be getting a greater slice in royalties. Currently there is a system in place that takes in all the mines and a 7% royalty is applied which in my book is not enough 15-20% would be better. Think of thhe reshearch that could be done with extra money. As well a pensions. homeless, hospitals and better boat facilaties along the coast, instead of waiting for some money hungry developer to do it.
All emails to the state goverment are vetted and passed to the relivante minister.
Filletmaster
piscetor
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waste of time
Your wasting your time sending an email to the premier, it will automaticly be sent to Punch ( at least he will get it ) I sent an email to the premier about the royalties we get from iron ore mining. It went straight the the mines minister and didn't even cross McGowans desk. My bitch was that the iron ore belongs to the people of WA and we should be getting a greater slice in royalties. Currently there is a system in place that takes in all the mines and a 7% royalty is applied which in my book is not enough 15-20% would be better. Think of thhe reshearch that could be done with extra money. As well a pensions. homeless, hospitals and better boat facilaties along the coast, instead of waiting for some money hungry developer to do it.
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Filletmaster
Moking
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Should be 10,000 Signature's by the end of week.
Proposed 8 or 9 month demersal bans
Eligibility : Residents of Western Australia Only
Principal Petitioner: Tim FarnellFacilitating Member: De Grussa, Hon Colinbutler 6036Closing Date: 04 November 2022 Posting Date: 26 August 2022No. of Signatures: 9405My Dad taught me how to Fish-Thanks Dad.(RIP)
Rob H
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Pushing
I have been pushing this onto various Noticeboards around the State including Broome at the moment and hopefully get it on their Fishing Club page.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Moondog
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Cracked the 10,000 mark this
Cracked the 10,000 mark this morning. A lot of smart blokes on here so I'm asking the question. What numbers would get this seriously considered and what more can we do to get it recognised and signed?
Rob H
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10,000 is a good milestone but...
This will get recognised, but opponents can easily point out "750,000 rec fishers and only 10,000 signed"?
Make it easy for them, send the link, tell them how important and that they will need to enter their address etc
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Moondog
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Have been doing that. 10,000
Have been doing that. 10,000 out of 750,000 is bugger all really! Do you think Recfishwest are doing enough?
scubafish
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Just signed the Petition
Problem I have is that putting us in the same category as the commercial fishos is bull&^$#. I don't go out and catch crate loads of fish. Want to look at sustainability start with looking at the greed of market place in that "the more fish we catch the more money we make in the market.$$$$$$$ I don't make a profit from catching 2 fish it cost me $50+ and I'm contributing to the local market. "Recreation is good for the soul" "God helps those that help themselves" TOO much of help themselves! Stop fu%$#^% over the rec fishos and cut the commercial money grabbers and the Bloody Tourism train that you seem to be on. I for one are Fu%$#@$# over it !
Tourism,Tourism,Tourism,Tourism,Tourism "ENOUGH" !!
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Rob H
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Just remember there is no
Just remember there is no commercial demersal fishing whatsoever between Lancelin (or Two Rocks) and Mandurah.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Moondog
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Was there any talk of
Was there any talk of reducing the zone sizes? Augusta to Kalbarri is a bloody long way? Could Mandurah to Lancelin be a new zone?
Rob H
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The problem with such
The problem with such smaller zones as it simply shifts the effort next door
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Moondog
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Ok fair enough.
Ok fair enough.
Moondog
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I agree with you scubafish.
I agree with you scubafish. The demersal commercial licenses need to be brought out!
davewillo
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Only problem with that is
Only problem with that is there are a lot of people who rely on buying fish who would not be able to. Also the restaurant industry would also suffer. Sure there are other options besides demersals but if I'm consuming in that way it'll almost always be demersal. I agree that the commercial licences need a lot more focus in all of this.
PGFC member and lure tragic
Moondog
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Yeah mate I understand all
Yeah mate I understand all of that but we are being told the stocks are really depleted and the quickest way to replenish the stocks is stop commercial fishing. You do make a good point about the hospitality industry as they taken a massive hit the last few years. If we cant possibly buy out the commercial licenses because of these reasons then they need take a good reduction of there tally like we are going to have to.
Im not sure if it can be done so this might be silly saying but has anyone tried to farm pink snapper like they do with salmon in tassie? Will the pinkies not survive being high in the water column there whole lives?
Shark1
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in October 2018 the Mcgowan
in October 2018 the Mcgowan government announced a buy back scheme for crab licences in the Mandurah estuary
however there are still commercial operators in the estuary- go figure
10201 signed onto petition
scubafish
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Food for thought .
People in charge are doing the right thing REALLY.
https://www.wafic.org.au/news/dredge-dumping-starts-shark-bay-world-heritage-zone/
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Swompa
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Speaking of the people in
Speaking of the people in charge, I got a Westport update via email yesterday.
If the stock levels are at such a critical point of not recovering quick enough, why would they do works within the breeding area that could risk a whole breeding cycle or 5?
Moondog
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The state daddy can't let
The state daddy can't let his Chinese leaders down.
Shark1
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they really care - wheres
they really care - wheres the locals who bitched about the bag limit during covid
Moondog
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https://www.parliament.wa.g
https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/parliament/memblist.nsf/WebCurrentMembLC
I've emailed every member on this list that isn't a member of the ALP with a link to the petition and a short spiel about why I personally think the government need to come back and negotiate. Already had a couple of replies and been told the members will sign it and promote it. Let's hope they follow through with there words! The more emails they get the more likely they are to do something.