mono to mono knot

Had a quick search but couldn't find much on this.... maybe I'm blind??

After recommendations 4 the best knot to connect 30lb mono mainline to 50-100lb mono leader.

Is it best to have knot before or after guides? Ideally I want a long leader but I expect it won't cast through guides well??

Thanks  

____________________________________________________________________________

Pembo


Posts: 315

Date Joined: 30/05/08

u fishing the comp

Mon, 2011-10-17 19:07

Il show u another knot for joining mono , can do it with your eyes shut ..... iv pulled plenty fish over the 100kg mark and It's never let go ....

pembo6's picture

Posts: 175

Date Joined: 21/08/11

 unfortunately make the comp.

Mon, 2011-10-17 20:02

 unfortunately can't make the comp.  hope there is another one son. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Pembo

UncutTriggerInWA's picture

Posts: 2692

Date Joined: 05/09/08

Double Unis have always worked for me

Mon, 2011-10-17 20:22

when joining mono. The problem is though that any knot which passes through the guides at high speed (surf casting) will be a pain in the butt. I use braid now and have discovered some nice Chinese tension knots but they are difficult and time consuming. With mono gear I prefer to take the main line right to the terminal tackle to avoid the hassles of trying to pass the knot through the guides. Having said all of that though fishing from a boat is a completely different ball game.

____________________________________________________________________________

Vince.
Work smart and fish often.
Member and die-hard supporter of the mighty West Coast Eagles.

Alan James's picture

Posts: 2243

Date Joined: 30/06/09

The blood knot

Mon, 2011-10-17 20:46

always served me well joining the mono shock leader to the mono main line during my surfcasting days.  Maybe a bit old school these days?

____________________________________________________________________________

      

Posts: 6454

Date Joined: 08/08/11

I mainly fish from a boat

Mon, 2011-10-17 21:13

I mainly fish from a boat using braid, which may not be what you are after.  I use to tie a bimini loop in the braid to join the leader onto but it was a lot of hassle. I've started using a polamar knot on the main line straighton to a swivel clip.  This then takes whatever terminal tackle i want to use on the day.  Quich and easy to tie and quick ti change rigs if i lose all or part of the terminal tackle.

____________________________________________________________________________

Fish! HARD!

pembo6's picture

Posts: 175

Date Joined: 21/08/11

 thanks guys. I normally ue

Mon, 2011-10-17 21:26

 thanks guys. I normally ue braid nd attach mono leader via a bimini and uni, lbright or GT knot. but am wanting o go back to good old mono mainline for lanbased sharks. 

 

____________________________________________________________________________

Pembo

Posts: 6454

Date Joined: 08/08/11

could try

Mon, 2011-10-17 21:34

could try here...

 

http://www.marinews.com/knots/

____________________________________________________________________________

Fish! HARD!

Posts: 6454

Date Joined: 08/08/11

or this...."Mono to wire knot

Mon, 2011-10-17 21:38

or this...."Mono to wire knot for shark rig leader"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0BnCKfvqRY

____________________________________________________________________________

Fish! HARD!

Posts: 287

Date Joined: 03/10/11

A full blood knot is good for

Mon, 2011-10-17 21:42

A full blood knot is good for mono to mono when diameters are about the same: http://www.animatedknots.com/bloodknot/index.php

 

The albright is good for mono to mono when the diameters are very different as in your case: http://www.animatedknots.com/albright/index.php 

 

Both knots are quick & easy to tie, both pass through the guides pretty well & both retain excellent knot strength when tied correctly.

crasny1's picture

Posts: 7006

Date Joined: 16/10/08

Use to be a blood knot fan

Mon, 2011-10-17 22:23

But nothing blood wise challenges the Uni-Uni. But as mentioned a PITA to cast as it does stick to the guides. From a boat not a worry in the world, and mono to mono its is as strong as any knot, because it self tensions both ways, and doesnt slip.

Neels

____________________________________________________________________________

"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk

Blue Whaler's picture

Posts: 382

Date Joined: 05/10/10

Tough one Pembo - take it its

Tue, 2011-10-18 07:27

Tough one Pembo - take it its your surf rod? - recommendation: buy a rod with bigger eyes?!

The smallest knot I guess, 30lb - 50/b or 60lb leader IMO would be the centauri to centauri - or simply double fig 8 to double fig 8. Small and strong. (BUt seriously, in the long run, if you are going to use big line - change your rod.)

____________________________________________________________________________

Every day at the Beach is a Good day!

Blue Whaler's picture

Posts: 382

Date Joined: 05/10/10

ah - forgot to mention - and

Tue, 2011-10-18 07:50

ah - forgot to mention - and my personal fav - wind-on leader - no more issues with guide size, and after a few samples it is not too difficult to make your own windon leaders.

____________________________________________________________________________

Every day at the Beach is a Good day!

pembo6's picture

Posts: 175

Date Joined: 21/08/11

Yep. Its for the surf rod.

Tue, 2011-10-18 09:13

Yep. Its for the surf rod.

Thanks John. I might take your advice and get a rod with larger guides. For now I am going to use a nasty cheap old rod I have which does have reasonably large guides. It is heavy so will handle larger fish/small sharks. Might try the centauri. I find the albright or uni work fine for up to 40lb, But I'm probably going to use much heavier line.

I was down in Dunsborough last weekend & I was busted off by what I think was a small-medium shark. I only had light line but it was great fun (briefly). So now I want to have a go and be more prepared.

Ragbag is going to e-mail me a diagram of a knot he uses. Will also give that a go.

____________________________________________________________________________

Pembo

Blue Whaler's picture

Posts: 382

Date Joined: 05/10/10

" I only had light line but

Tue, 2011-10-18 10:21

" I only had light line but it was great fun (briefly)."

Can't wait for summer to get strreeettccchhhheeedddd.......ha ha. Just fixed up my wind on leaders last night - looking forward to get my tackle tested. Sorted out some new steel traces and blinged it with some red / blue heat wrapps - looking nice and sharp with the Daiichi's - so looking forward to get hooked.

 

 

____________________________________________________________________________

Every day at the Beach is a Good day!

Brucesta's picture

Posts: 1721

Date Joined: 29/05/09

go the albright. well the

Tue, 2011-10-18 09:42

go the albright. well the improved albright so you don't have a knot slipping on you under heavy tension, otherwise uni/uni joined together.

____________________________________________________________________________

Las Vegas - Rolling the dice and trying your luck. 1M+ Barra summer target. 100kg Black Marlin winter target

Markie's picture

Posts: 2154

Date Joined: 06/08/10

 uni to uni for mono to mono

Tue, 2011-10-18 12:47

 uni to uni for mono to mono has never failed for me