how deep can u sound the bottom on a hds10 or furuno585
Submitted by quindieselbrad on Wed, 2011-10-19 14:52
i have a hds10 and was wondering how deep ppl have sounded with it using a tm 600 or 1kw tranny...i wanna hit 350m for example...
please only ppl who know from experience with a hds10 reply, i dont care what the other brands or models do lol thanks
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thesupervisor
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i have used a hds 10 with a
i have used a hds 10 with a 600 tran at 300mtrs
its readable
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
quindieselbrad
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getting the bottom line final
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
lol luvn it cheers...cant wait to try deep...
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hlokk
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Keep in mind theres a
Keep in mind theres a difference between picking up a depth number and picking up fish reliably at that depth ;)
quindieselbrad
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yep agreed, i just wanna see
yep agreed, i just wanna see the depth
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FISHNTIME
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1kw
Get the 1kw tranny if you want to actually read the ground/fish not just hitting the 350m number your wasting your time with the 600 trany IMO
harro
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tranny
pretty sure they dont have a 1kw transom yet, i have tried looking, for the hds, they have a thru hull one though,
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FISHNTIME
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FURUNO 585
Furuno 585 i was talking about mate
wouldnt have a clue about lowrance hds10
harro
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cool
yer no worries, i got the 1kw for the 585 nice piece of hardware,
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strike_zone
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same
lowrance and furuno use the same transom mount airmar transducer just different plugs
WADRay
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Lowrance (and Simrad NSE
Lowrance (and Simrad NSE series) TM258 transducer transom mount 1kW 50/200 kHz - Airmar TM258-BL
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i have the hds 7 and have hit 220 metres easily
with the standard 600 watt transducer and that was before i talked to the hds dealer at the show! i was running mine on general fishing but he told me to change it to deep water so it will be interesting to see how it goes out there with that setting!
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soupster51
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585 and 1KW
Easily seeing fish on a slow movment (less than 2 knots) in 500m+.
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till
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Experience with both the
Experience with both the HDS10 and the FCV-585.
HDS10: you can probably get a bottom reading with the HDS10, but thats it. You will get annoying clutter, and probably quite a bit of made up crap on it as well.
Furuno FCV-585: you will reliably see bottom detail and fish down there.
quindieselbrad
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yep ive been using the deep
yep ive been using the deep water setting since i got it, it shows way better bottom definition up to 195m so far yet to go deeper.....general mode has better ability to show depth at high speeds but less ability to show fish......proly just the auto adjust feature but i use manual adjust to adapt to the different depths that i fish....ive seen pics of the unit working in 1200ft of water in 200khz in general mode lol so i imagine with some fine tuning, it will be fine for 350m even with just a 600w tranny
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till
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Ahh just save yourself some
Ahh just save yourself some grief and read through some of Lucky Tim's posts about that unit in deep water, even with a 1kW tranny.
Tomcat
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Agree
Had hds 10 with 1 kl and you will struggle to find fish in 350 it will show bottom but it's a long way to go and you need to be spot on in that depth that's why I sold it makes a good plotter
Luke R
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used a HDS with a 600w
used a HDS with a 600w transom mount up in exmouth, we got bottom to 280 in slighty rough conditions and caught plenty of rubys. However we did have to travel very slow. With a 1KW it will work better in those depths. The HDS are a great unit for the price, i think alot of people don't know how to use them properly thats why they cop flack from fishos. After testing Furuno gear and HDS i have found it is easy to go from using lowerance to using furuno however its difficult for a furuno user to go to a lowerance unit, not because the Lowerance is no good but you do need to have some understanding about using your electronics to use the lowerance where as furuno any rookie can use it.
STEVE231
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mmm...food for thought
mmm...food for thought maybe...
fisho-ron
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yes steve..indeed!!will test
yes steve..indeed!!
will test mine out for myself.
hlokk
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I keep hearing that "you
I keep hearing that "you need to set the lowrance up right" but why? Practically everyone has them not setup perfectly, and if people cant set them up well, then thats not good. Its like having an average car and saying it goes well because you can tune it up, but if most people are not going to be able to know what to do, then its never a good car for any practical purposes. Sure fiddling is good, but if they cant work for 90% of people out of the box, whats the point? Having seen both numerous times, i'll still go with furuno. That or someone needs to tell people exactly how to set them up, then tell lowrance to do that out of the box.
edit: Just to clarify: Not having a go at you Luke, just the units in general. Just seems like HDS's dont live up to some of the hype generated unless you stumble on some magic settings. Would be good if someone uploaded a guide to these specific to the units. Would be a good thing to have at TackleHQ too (though you may already help people out with how to set them up?).
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furuno 585 a 1kw
Yeh no probs with 450m with the furuno, need to be going pretty slow though. Like trolling baits slow.
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quindieselbrad
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sweet as ,cheers for the
sweet as ,cheers for the replies. should i get a tm260 airmar for the deep shiz?
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Tomcat
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Glad
Glad you said that Luke not me the furuno mafia will be after you lol
quindieselbrad
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tthis thread wasnt meant to
tthis thread wasnt meant to start a debate!!!!!!
a simple question, how freakn deep does ur sounder go, hds10 or 585 owners!! i dont give a sshit who is better or deeper.
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wangler
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Well, I guess the depth penetration
would all depend on the sea conditions, currents, eddies etc. So best effort would be what the manufactures claim on an absolute perfect day. I don't have either units so can't really comment, but say for the example you gave us ie 350m, just go the 1KW, then don't look what a 2KW can do 'cause you'll just want that too.....
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quindieselbrad
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ive seen some good shots
ive seen some good shots taken in america on the hds10 in 1280ft deep so if thats the case and he was only using a 600 tranny in 200khz lol so im cool with the fact it was proly a dead flat day :)
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FishOn570
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keen to school me on my HDS
keen to school me on my HDS luke? have only been to 100m at the moment but would like to go further if weather lets me.. have been meanin to ask quinny about how to use it to its full capabilities but he is so flat out when i come in might have to hit u up if u have a few minutes to spare one day...
Lucky Tim
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I have a HDS 10 and a Airmar
I have a HDS 10 and a Airmar M260 in hull tranny and hit 300m....once.
Didn't go close again so swapped it for a Furuno 585 and have had 600m read with the same transducer.
I kept hearing about HDS magic settings and tried all that was suggested but never got the same results as the Furuno.
Tomcat
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Tranny
Lucky Tim I had hds 10 with m260 was told by airmar that it would not work on other sounders and no adapter was available so it's still in hull did you wire it yourself as I could use it as a backup