cleaning fish with fresh water?

I heard or read somewhere that cleaning saltwater fish with fresh water is bad and can affect the flesh is this true?and if so how badly does it affect it?


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Yes its true. Think it

Mon, 2012-05-21 11:40

Yes its true. 

Think it depends which fish you are talking about.  It can spoil the texture of the flesh as the flesh soaks up the freshwater. I think it also can change the conditions for bacterial growth and resultant degradation of the flesh. 

If I have to wash fish at home, I make up some saltwater and wash them in that.

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personally i think its BULLS###

Mon, 2012-05-21 11:40

I have been cleaning fish with fresh water as long as i have been fishing and it has never affected the quality, i think it is more to do with how you look after your fish from the time you catch it to the packaging!

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I always clean them in the

Mon, 2012-05-21 11:52

I always clean them in the water I catch them. ( the ocean )

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 A substances will always

Mon, 2012-05-21 11:57

 A substances will always travel from a hypertonic solution to a hypotonic solution through a semi-permiable membrane (cell membrane) until equilibrium is reached. so by cleaning your saltwater fish in freshwater will draw salt out of the fish and make ur fish taste bland. and vice versa when cleaning freshwater fish in salt water!

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 well that was what i learned

Mon, 2012-05-21 11:58

 well that was what i learned in my biology units! lol. dont know how much attention i payed so who knows how right or wrong i am! 

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You are right, just the salt

Mon, 2012-05-21 15:36

You are right, just the salt doesn't move its the water. So the cells from the saltwater fish will fill up with freshwater until, as you said ,there are equal in contens. or the other way freshwater fish would try out.

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True

Mon, 2012-05-21 12:36

 Clean salt in salt and fresh in fresh!!

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Salt water if you have to

Mon, 2012-05-21 12:46

Salt water if you have to wash fish at all.

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im with Till, who actually

Mon, 2012-05-21 12:55

im with Till, who actually washes their fish????

 

If you need to wash fish your not filleting it right!

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and if you are not

Mon, 2012-05-21 13:06

I gut my fish a long time before fillettting them so always wash out the gut cavity in salt water. 

 

+1 I don't generally wash fillets or cutlets - just wipe with a paper towel if they have scales on.

 

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I have always just used fresh

Mon, 2012-05-21 15:16

I have always just used fresh water and havnt had any complaints but will try salt water see if it makes much difference. What about squid? Same deal as the fish?

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I think it is far better to clean in Sea/salt water

Mon, 2012-05-21 16:02

But its not always possible due to the legal requirement of fisheries. Your fillets have to be a certain size and not all fish fillets reach that lenght. If I process at sea use seawater, if at home lazy and use fresh.

As for not washing them, simple hygiene principles apply, and if you dont some off the gut bacteria can get into or onto the flesh. Sure they are killed by cooking, but some can produce  nasty toxins which arent always heat deactivated.

Not saying you must, just suggesting that it does help prevent food poisoning.

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if you get some of the gut

Thu, 2012-05-24 09:38

if you get some of the gut content on your fillets your still not filleting them right :)

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if you wash fish with water

Mon, 2012-05-21 18:40

if you wash fish with water and then freeze it, the water particles get soaked up by the flesh and then the water freezescausing the meat to get freezer burnt, well thats what i have found.

wipe your fish down with rag on a roll to soak up any moisture on the surface then vac seal the fillets will be good for around 10 months then they start to spoil.

if your going to wash your fish only do it before filleting and/or cook it fresh with out freezing

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The way we do it.

Thu, 2012-05-24 06:50
  1. We catch the fish straight on ice.
  2. At home fillet & skin.
  3. Cryvac, n pack big enough for a meal. (No water at all)
  4. freeze.
  5. Defrost
  6. wash with fresh water, prep and cook.

We have had no problems like this

 

 

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 have tried all ways and this

Thu, 2012-05-24 07:37

 have tried all ways and this is the way to go. taste is so diffrent when done in this method.

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Definitely dont use fresh

Thu, 2012-05-24 07:46

Definitely dont use fresh water on salt water fish.  and yes squid is exactly the same ...no doubts about it.

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cheers

Thu, 2012-05-24 08:00

Thanks for all your input will start making a habit of cleaning my catch before I head home where possible

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Morgs84

Thu, 2012-05-24 09:01

Morgs has it spot on, fillet the fish at home, scrape whatever slime off , wrap, pack and freeze. When you defrost them  then give it a quick rinse and in to the pan. Sharks, clean as soon as they come out of the water then do the same as for fish.

If you have spiked them and iced them properly there is no need to gut fish for 48 or more hours without affecting the flesh providing you have kept them well iced, not frozen.

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Fri, 2012-05-25 08:24

Cheers mate

Must be because I was also from Carnarvon and we rock lol

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From what i've head it's not

Fri, 2012-05-25 12:59

From what i've head it's not really do to with osmosis as jeffere said because you really aren't submerging your fish for that long if you are just cleaning them. If you were to leave your fillets in a bucket of freshwater for a few hours, then it might be a differnt story, but just cleaning them shouldnt be an issue.

The main problem that i've heard of is that cleaning with freshwater can promote bacterial growth, causing your fillets to go bad quicker. I doubt it will make them go instantly bad, but they probably won't keep as long as if you'd cleaned the fish in salt water.

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doesnt make a difference fresh or salt what a load of bull imo

Fri, 2012-05-25 17:24

 if your working on a fishing boat and have to process fish fillets,they have salt water pumps to help clean the fish fillets,i worked for kailis in the early 80,s for a couple of years filleting fish,and proccesing them as a fishfilletter,we used lots of fresh water to procees and keep the fish fillets clean,aswell as the cutting equipment,they supply alot of hotels,restraunts,fish shops and also export,so go figgure, fish quality is how you treat your fish capture eg bleed and straight on ice,so threfore doesnt make a difference be it fresh or saltwater,like i say what a load of bull,anyway there isnt a right or wrong way,not every1 with a boat has a processing plant onboard eg saltwater pump setup,

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 yeh I gotta agree with that

Fri, 2012-05-25 18:20

 yeh I gotta agree with that Joe... A big majority of fish I clean tend to be at home.. the smaller stuff(with no seawater around) and Ive never noticed a difference... I reckon like you said, its all about how its treated once it leaves the water... and of course, how its cooked(some people have no idea!!!)

I did however cook crabs in freshwater years and years ago... big mistake!! bitter as!!! but thats a different topic!! 

Id love to be shown by a pro how to fillet a decent sized fish... I can do it with minimal wastage, but it takes sooo long... especially baldies, those scales get into everything!!

 

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 give it a go and see for

Fri, 2012-05-25 20:42

 give it a go and see for yourself. i have tried all ways and you can taste the diff.

i was sceptical about this till i compared. 

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Salt Water

Fri, 2012-05-25 21:53

We always bring back a bucket of water from where we fish & not in the marina. We fillet then rinse in the bucket, dry off with paper towels, cryvac & freeze. In areas like Exmouth & Gnaraloo it makes a huge difference because the water is generally bore water.

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