Bream braid to fluoro
Submitted by lachieH on Fri, 2014-09-05 12:41
Hi everyone. I know this topic has been discussed before but I can't seem to find any that work. I am currently using 4lb fins braid and 8lb yamashita fluoro leader. I use the double uni not and a couple other ones but whenever I try to cast small 4g lures as hard as I can the not seems to break really easily. I think that the lines may be cutting each other? Anyway any help would be appreciated.
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crasny1
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How old is the Finns?
I personally like it but as it ages, especially light, it has broken in my experience.
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lachieH
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About 3 weeks . But I also
About 3 weeks
. But I also have fins braid 4lb in yellow that's about 6 months old now. All my breaming gear is relatively new
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crasny1
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where does it break?
If it is at the knot there is an obvious tying issue. I would be surprised with the lure weight if it is the fluoro leader that parts. As mentioned below firing out a lure with 4lb might stress the braid.
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lachieH
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It's breaking at the knot.
It's breaking at the knot. My knots never break for beach fishing which is weird but it's the braid that slips usually. I have even been sound 7 twists for the uni knot, not 5.
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crasny1
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lachie
With a braid uniknot at the very least double the turns. If I am going to use a Uni in braid I often triple or even quad the turns to about 10-15.
Only use this if I am lazy, or night time as I can tie a Uni totally blind. So if it is slipping at the knot it is not your technique thats at fault, its the braid slipping. If you can also tie a Bimini so you have a double to tie the Uni, and that makes it stronger. I dont like just doubling the braid as the tag end drives me nut in the tieing process. Start with a neat Bimini, but it does take practice to perfect. But well worth learning this "fun" knot.
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Hutch
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Good advice with the
Good advice with the bimini.
I use a bimini for my albright knots but now that you've mentioned it it would be great for double uni alslo.
Simmo Ryan
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Albright knot
Albright knot every time for me, but it takes practice to tie a nice neat strong knot..... there is a big difference between the breaking strain of a well or poorly tied Albright.
A lot of it comes down to the braid and leader material too, as some tie better than others. I have found that the combo of YGK modragon braid and nitlon fluorocarbon ties exceptionally well.
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Hutch
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for light tackle I use an
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on the albright
bushbeaver
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Try this method for the FG
Try this method for the FG knot. Slim, strong and easy to tie, though more involved than the double uni knot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52uWL43hUbw
lachieH
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Thanks bushbeaver! I tried
Thanks bushbeaver! I tried it and it is really good. I pulled it so hard that it gave my finger a big paper cut and the line didn't even look close to breaking.
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Simmo Ryan
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Lure weight
I would also say that casting a 20g lure with four pound may also be pushing the friendship. For a lure of that weight I would be using 8lb +
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lachieH
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Oops srry mate I was thinking
Oops srry mate I was thinking of huge ecogear sx-40 and put down the Halco twisty 20g weight lol. Actually the sx-40 only weighs 4g at the most so that shouldn't overload the line too much.
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benferguson
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I use the double uni with
I use the double uni with 5lb berkley fire exceed and vanish leader and havnt had it breaker when I tie my uni I do about 4 turns with the leader but about 8 with the braid and I don't cut the tag to short with the braid and I don't have to many problems only the knot some times snags the guides I need to learn the fg knot hope that helps
Bazooked
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sebile/fg knot all the way,
sebile/fg knot all the way, there is no knot in the line to cut it under tension, also suita ble for micro guides as the other knots arent.
Jackfrost80
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I've found the albright knot
I've found the albright knot to be incredibly strong and incredibly simple (especially in windy conditions) with my 4lb fins and 6lb vanish leader. I actually pulled me and my dinghy 20m toward a snag on the weekend without it breaking. I use both that and the double uni knot for my squid/tailor rig but with the double uni knot I do 5 twists for the mono and 8 twists for the braid.
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Sulo
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If you use a long leader it
If you use a long leader it is probably wrapping around a guide on the way out which is causing a break off. Try having the leader nearly out the last couple of guides before casting and see what happens then.
flexn
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Albright is easy to tie but
Albright is easy to tie but seems to cut itself after a while. I use a FG knot, but if tieing when I'm out I use a double uni. 4 turns on the mono, 10 turns on the braid. Running 6lb braid, 6lb fluro casting off two drunken monkeys rod. Haven't had any wind knots or breaks.