Blatant Spot Stealing
Whilst I understand that the ocean doesn't belong to me, I cannot believe the blatant spot stealing that was going on, on Saturday, off Mindarie. My brother has worked very hard to find good ground and has spent lots of hours working the around to see people drive within 10 metres of where you are fishing to Ping your spots left me feeling less than impressed.
This got even better when one boat load of guys came straight up to us, pinged the spot and then when we went up to ask them WTF! they said "we weren't fishing mate what's your Fuc=$ing problem". My problem, you dickhead, is that you should find your own spots or learn some ocean etiquette. If they had come up and said hi or even been half civilised the outcome might have been vastly different but their attitude , language and total bullshit story really had me fired up.
We took their Rego and a photo of the boat and I am still considering the name and shame as they clearly intended to go and steal everyones spots even though they "weren't fishing" with five rods, a sounder and bait??
There were several others that were circling like seagulls and triangulating the spots, clearly this is becoming the norm but it is piss poor in my opinion
What do you do, pull out the Shot gun and fire a warning across the bow, ram them and ruin your day or just suck it up and accept that some people clearly haven't learnt any respect. To their credit the others on the boat looked very sheepish but the skipper was being a right nob end
Anyone had a similar experience recently as i could not believe what i saw.
Cheers
Pilbra Dave
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What is Wrong with People These Days
Come on that is crap, What is wrong with poeple
P.S. A good RADAR only costs a couple of grand now, with one of these you can avoid confrontation plus it makes night fishing safer!!!
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flexn
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Haha yeah i got done on
Haha yeah i got done on friday. Was fishing a lump I go to and see this boat come from a while away going atleast 20 knots, didn't slow down, didnt sound around just did a u-turn and set a drift within 15 meters of me and drop lines over straight away. Really considered launching a few 16oz sinkers at him.
Luckily I was stuffing around getting organised and had actually drifted about 50 meters past the lump so he didn't catch a thing. I left to make out like I hadn't caught anything either (although had a nice baldy) and he took off almost straight away.
jdavies_99
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Flip side of the coin
I dont necessarily condone name and shaming as too often in the past it has bitten people.
I dont doubt that pinging does occur but I also think sometimes there is a bit of misunderstanding. People heading to the same spot see a boat on their spot so drive off somewhere else. Could easily be confused for a pinger when it is innocent.
Another thing which could confuse and I know I am definitely guilty of is being a busy body. Driving out to a FAD or your spot and you see a boat along the way so you veer a bit towards to have a look. I always do it as am curious if the other people have anything on the bite, what gear they are running or just a look at the boat. Nothing to do with pinging but just idle curiosity. I dont think it is a bad thing as well when you are far out do it as it makes sure that the other boat is ok.
Dont get me wrong, I dont support pinging in any way however I am just saying be very careful if anyone wants to name and Shame as you really need to make sure you get your facts straight. Personally I would just steer away from naming.
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grayzeee
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If you veer off course ,
If you veer off course , toward someone fishing a mark, close enough to see "what gear people are running" then you may as well ping them because you'll be seen as one.
What do you do if they are hooked up big time?? Stay and start fishing or ping it and drive off.
No doubt people have the same spots. It's happened to me , but If someones there before you , they have priority. Suck it up and go to another spot.
Sorry , but I get out on the water to get away from all that , and if I see someone coming from a way off , I'll just head for them.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
crasny1
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Grayzeee
Thats the pity about all this pinging. I would never try and be civil and go and say hello to another boat out in the Ocean. This civil act of friendliness would surely be seen as Pinging, and like hell am I going to do it when I hate pingers myself.
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jdavies_99
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Missed the mark
Well the point of my post is that the question being asked was if he/she should name and shame. What my post was saying that not all boaties driving around are pinging. Some people are driving to spots that they also know of or are driving by. On a hot summer day heading from Woodies to a FAD I would easily pass atleast 10 boats within 400m on a direct course. Does that mean 10 people are going to name and shame my boat for simply driving by to my destination?
If you are going to name and shame you are effectively ruining someones credibility when they could be innocent. You need to be damn sure that they are in fact pinging and even if you are damn sure, you still need to think fairly hard before ruining someones rep.
People are so damn uptight worried about pingers and they need to chill. My post was saying to be sure before naming and shaming and I got told "what do I do if I see someone hooked up big time, stay and start fishing or ping it and drive off". Thats just insulting and shows the paranoid attitude that we all have when it comes to thinking everyone in a boat on the ocean is a pinger.
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grayzeee
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If you re-read your 1st post
If you re-read your 1st post (if you haven't edited it) , you actually said you liked to swing by boats on your way out , and check out what was going on. whether or not you press mark is by the by, as those guys fishing that spot would call you for a pinger, like it or not.
It's not the done thing.
Passing boats on your way out to a mark is obviously going to happen.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
jdavies_99
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My first post has not been edited in any way.
My first post said that if I am on my way out to somewhere and there is a boat along the way I sometimes will veer closer and have a look. I am not saying I am riding up to that guy, finding his lump and hitting "mark". What I am saying though is that dont always assume someone driving by is pinging your spot.
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Lamby
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Your actions speak louder
Your actions speak louder than words & in this instance if someone is veering off course towards another boat then they are forgiven for thinking you are pinging. Your excuse that you are nosey whilst I accept is your reasoning would not wash with me.
This is nothing personal jdavies but I would prefer to not be labelled a pinging c**t than to sastisy my curiosity but that's my opinion & others may think along the same lines as you
crasny1
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We can winge about it
But other than educating on sites like this and others about the poor form there is NADA we can do other than take the law in our own hands, and then WE have to deal with the consequences.
It suxs and my story in dampier is even worst. This CAT came up, looked at his sounder, exclaimed to me "Nice looking ground and lots of fish". 3 weeks later thought we would revisit the spot and there he was, clearly on the spot after clearly pinging us.
*&^^%^$ was all I could say. I drove up and he told me in no uncertain terms to p*ss off from his spot!!!! Had another lump about 500m away. Went there and Oscar nomination time. Caught one shark that was brought up and down a few times to great fanfare with hollers and hoots. Sure enough he pulled anchor and was heading our way. Up anchor, raced over and reclaimed the spot. Deckie had a great time when they tried to return telling them to "p*ss off from our spot, waving the camera at them with pictures off the Ping and reminding them of the uncool behaviour.
Why is it when woman go on a tirade it is so much more effective than us blokes raging??
As mentioned other than this blatant ping if others are on a spot we think is ours, it is probably theirs aswell. No point then in causing a scene, they think you are pinging them etc. Just go to another mark, or the Hollywood act can certainly bait pingers. A dive weight can create a superb bend in a rod, and a net with hoots and hollers can fool anyone. If they come over, its nice to feel the sweet smell of revenge without breaking any laws.
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fisho-ron
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i think it all depends on
i think it all depends on where you are fishing!!
if you are on something marked on a map, like a wreck, reef, fad or a countour line then i think its open for every one.
if its in the middle of nowhere and nothing showing on your map then i think you have got a fair call your being pinged.
a prime example would be me and grazeee out of jurien,
i passed him on the way out to the wreck as we were both going the same dirrection, as it turns out we were both going to the same place and actually meet for the first time, while hooked up, a quick introduction while fishing and all was good with us moving in front of each other many times drifting over the wreck.
now thats all great because its on the map and its not my spot, i am sure greame would think the same.
but if its not marked on the map then i keep my distance and i think everyone else should as well.
hook line and sinker
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it has to be the lowest form
it has to be the lowest form of desperation....i mean seriously a little respect for your fellow anglers has got to come into play somewhere along the track!! i had it last year at this same time heading off from woodies ramp at 4am and there was one other boat that was at that ramp at the same time so while i was waiting for my mate to park the car i had a yak to him and mentioned we were gonna look for a few pinks and he said the same so i thought all is well lets head off and we will go our seperate ways but no..... he decided to follow us out to try steal my spot so i played a slight trick. i slowed right down and so did he while he was lurking 200m or so back made it look like i was sounding the area and then swung the anchor over the side and let it splash into the water but only just so he threw his anchor over about 50m away....we waited 30seconds or so flicked the anchor back in and gunned it!!!you shoulda seen the look on there faces when we flew past them a 25knots smiling and waving. i wish that was the last of them but they found us a few hours later and stalked us for about 2hours until they realised we werent fishing for that time we were just waiting for them to leave!!!!the nerve!!!!!!!!!!!never ever telling someone that im chasin snapper at the ramp again
beau
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This happened to me a few
This happened to me a few years ago too, and I was on a bloody jetski!! I launched the ski and as I walked to the car to park it a bloke launching his boat calls out from the other side of the jetty "what you going for mate?" I replied "snapper" and he actually said "oh same as us, wait for us and we'll follow you" and proceeded to "rushly" launch his boat!! I took off and raced out of there, couldn't believe it!
snappermiles
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lol beau
oldest trick in the book! when i used to fish for the snapper religously before all the bans i had a 12 foot dingy and there where a couple of boats that would launch and wait for me! as i took off they would follow! so we would anchor off the spot wait till they anchored then upanchor and sit exactley where i wanted to be! if i didnt do this as soon as i started to circle they would anchor stright on the spot! bastards!
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bradz
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3 mile
I was on the 3 mile one Saturday night a few weeks ago. Found a nice bit of ground and was holding on the spot with the boat in idle. Another boat comes up, sounds around about 100m up wind...then went 100m down wind and starts drifting towards me. When he got about 20m away he repeated his drift. Being on my own and not wanting to make a fuss I let it go. However, on the third time I shouted ed out to him "hey, the reef is pretty big...how about moving on a bit". I can honestly say I was very civilised. His response was "you're kidding arent you?"
It is not worth making enemies on your own at night.
Funny thing, he was the boat behind me back at the ramp. Luckily no fuss was made.
I did then the best that I knew how. When I knew better, I did better.
sunshine
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I regularly fish flat hard coral
No lumps (yes there are holes but no discernable lumps) and regularly get pinged, see them coming for miles but by myself with a big parachute sea anchor out I cannot be bothered to try and pull it in and head off
What is interesting is that they sound around up-drift and then look at me as if I am an idiot and piss off ..................yet I regularly get good dhuies up to 18kg over this ground .............I avoid lumps as, invariably, at some time during cray season there will be pro pots on or around the lumps and they will have been pinged by all and sundry - there is no hard work in finding lumps during cray season - just time to sight pot lines and go and sound around them
Life is way way too short to let these idiots spoil your day (lost a mate two weeks ago who at 42 dropped dead from an aneurism) ignore them relax and enjoy your fishing as it IS STRESS that kills you and we all fish for relaxation
Walfootrot
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yep, lumps and ruff ground
yep, lumps and ruff ground get hammard, everyone knows the spots as so many boats sound these waters every week, think your the first to find this ground?? really.
Some dont understand good hard ground plate coral and what it holds.
Sorry about ya mate.
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
mungus
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I've owned a boat, in one
I've owned a boat, in one form or the other, for the last 20 years but the extent of my fishing is confined to dropping a few crab nets in the Estuary at Mandurah.
I have to confess that I am completely ignorant in relation to the expected etiquette in relation to spot stealing or pinging. What is the etiquette? Also, if someone is fishing on a spot on a reef what is distance that another person fishing on that same reef can be from that person before it's considered poor form?
There's a big ocean out there and it belongs to all of us. I thought that fishing was meant to be a relaxing pastime.
carnarvonite
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Crabbing
Was stopping down there a couple of years back house sitting for mum and brought the boat down with me. Went crabbing and doing the usual circle of pots and moving the whole thing along each round to cover fresh ground. With about 10 crabs in the bucket another boat comes from miles away, pulls up 100 metres away and watches how I'm going then comes over and askes where do you think is a good spot because he's new to the area!!!! [WTF. I am from Carnarvon and never fished there before EVER] then he proceeds to drop is nets some 30-40 metres away.
If he had taken notice of where I'd been fishing he would have seen it was the ground I'd already covered , caught a couple more to top things off while looking to see how he was getting on then took off. Nothing went in to his bucket---not that I was surprised!!! Served the bugger right
Have been pinged thousands of time while pro fishing but played a trick on a boat out off Sugarloaf . Had fiished pulling the gear an close and was steaming out towards the Yallingup lumps, there was a couple of boats fishing together about 4nm straight out from the rock so I altered course a bit towards them, they were standing up waving their fist, swearing and carrying on as we passed. Little did they know the spot they were fishing has been known to everyone i the area for years and covers about 1/2 a footy field AND is marked on nav charts.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black when the same boat pinged us two days later outside the Coral lumps!!!
Browndog
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Said it before
I've said it before, and at the risk of getting 100 nasty private messages I'll say it again. I just don't get this "my patch of the ocean" crap.
Are we that posessive that we can't meet like minded people out on the ocean, share a smile and a wave, discuss the fishing, the weather, the footy, whatever? It seems sad that in today's society the first reaction is to call someone a w@nker, yell abuse at them, tell them to piss off from "your" patch of ocean.
And before I am accused of being a pinger, yes I have a GPS, and it has only one mark in it. All my fishing is done on ground that I find that day (would be nice if I found the Dhufish retirement home lol)
Never "pinged", never will.
If you see me out near Garden island in a blue ally runabout, come say hi. I promise not to throw a squid at you or try to start a fight. If I happen to be on a nice patch of ground (I should be so lucky) maybe you might enjoy some luck there too.
Peace.
Browndog.
sea-kem
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What you've got to realise
What you've got to realise Browndog is that things have changed and there's a lot of arseholes out there now who don't give a crap. As I said common courtesy is out the window. I'm lucky where I fish as I know most of the boats and blokes on them and unless you invite or they invite you we keep a distance but still all talk to each other and take the piss. I feel for the decent metro guys.
Love the West!
sea-kem
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That's right Mungus it's a
That's right Mungus it's a big ocean so no need for anyone to come within a 100m of you. It's just common courtesy. Like I've had a couple of times now clowns that SHOULD be able to see you're trolling it's pretty obvoius in my book come and run over our lines and cut them off. I'm going to get a STAY THE FARRK AWAY flag made.
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EL SYD
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cheers to you browndogI too
cheers to you browndog
I too find fishing a great way to meet people
fishcrazy
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pingers
gidday guys havin that sorta shit go on a bit on ffb ,pulled up on a lump start berlying ( fished this lump at nite for years ) within half hour boat pulls up sets a drift through our berley drift across the back of boat so close they are over our floating pillys and informs me im on his fu@&inspot that is bullshit with the amount of ppl fishin morethan two ppl are gonna have same ground if a boat is already there rocking up and making a prick of yaself is just crap go somewhere else and havr a bit of courtesy and coupla brain cells nobody owns the ocean
meglodon
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crabbing at mandurah
you brought a smile to my face canarvonite,saying that people dared to come within 30 - 40 metres from your line/circle of pots. on a long weekend or a really good sunny day you would be lucky if there wasn't 6 rows of pots in a 30 - 40 stretch of the estuary.I've had perthites drop a line of crab pots right accross my line of pots then proceed topull every pot in sight,when questioned wth do you think you are doing the usual answer is i didn't know they were your pots.I no don't go crabbing on any weekend like others have said i like to get on the water and relax, not stress out because i'ld like to strangle some idiots i've seen on the estuary.The jet ski brigade down here have discovered a new sport also,lets see how fast we can do the salom course marked out by the line of white round floats and we can race each other through these as well.
winter can be such a pleasant time on the estuary
Lamby
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Metro is heinous & witnessed
Metro is heinous & witnessed some dog acts with a range of excuses from passive to aggressive, they are only kidding themselves they are not prized c**t's.
Not so bad down south but I think that's a combination of mutual respect & reputation in a small area, something Perth now lacks it appears. However come holiday season the sneaky phucking water ninja's travel down. Used to need anger management during this time, now just pack the rifle & binoculars or stay off the water all together.
Feel sorry for you honest lads but I do wonder how many on here engage in this shit & what hope do you have with them going truly ninja with their roof top arse raping units?
Respect gentlemen, where has it gone?
rails8291
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I don't own a boat, and if I
I don't own a boat, and if I did I wouldn't ping, I've read a few of these treads now , I wouldn't name and shame unless you can prove they did ping you, just remember the ocean is everyones ground, and your secret ground could be someone elses secrets spot too, I'm landbased only and fish alot at eshed and north mole , along with everybody else, you don't see me telling anyone too get off the north mole or eshed its my spot, I dont do it because it's everyones. Plus they probably say get f#*ked,
Just my 2cents
Lamby
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Let me simplify this for you
Let me simplify this for you then mate, would you go to north mole and start fishing off the same rock as someone else. Would you be pissed if a guy set up right next to you when there is plenty of room elsewhere & proceed to have tangled lines? It can be adapted to land based also, had some rude pricks pull similar stunts at wedge island with acres of room each side.
Dizzy
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Oh for the old days where
Oh for the old days where fish were a-plenty nearly wherever you went, GPS was science-fiction and pinging wasn't possible ..........
........... and you'd probably get offered a beer, make new friends and have a good yarn if you pulled up along side someone to say g'day.
crasny1
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I remember those days
Cough cough -- giving our ages away!!
Have to admit it was pleasant. Cruising around Rotto, stopping off for a fish with triangulation. If a boat came along it was all very civil, and almost social.
I recall a nice boat (Think it was a Randall) coming over when we were diving at Rotto. Sat out off range for a while until he new we had surfaced. Then slowly moved closer. All he wanted to know was whether we got some crays. Yes we got a few. Cool. Are you interested in some Dhuy or KG trade for a couple. Since we hadn't fished, bloody cool. 4 crays traded for a dhu and 4 KG's (slappers I recall). Not only that. Invited that crew over for a barbie seefood style and stayed mates for a few yrs. Ah the good old days!!
Nowadays just imagine. I for one would be super sus if someone approached me on one of my hard to find spots. Yes I agree I dont own the spot, but when I am on it it is where I am fishing. Then for some jobbo to come over and comment about how good it looks. There is some hard yards done to find some precious spots, and I dont particularly want them Raped and pillaged.
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Dizzy
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Haha - I'm "only" 38, but I
Haha - I'm "only" 38, but I remember doing it all with my Grandad out in Geographe Bay back in the late 70's during the bi-annual southward mass-migration of the caravan park fishing fleets !
Even the thought of it gets me all nostalgic.
Had an awesome find a few months back - might post another topic on it
topwell
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as for land based
My dog does not like strangers parking to close on the beach i dont have to do anything.
damo6230
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Shit happens
What do you expect when fishing from a Capital City.
There is only a finite distance people travel each trip so statistically your bound to encounter other boats and again statistically if 60 000 boats have 100 marks each you do the math and work out how many marks are going to be similar given the radius of travel.
The price you pay for living in the big smoke
Paul G
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If you dumb ass enough to sit
If you dumb ass enough to sit on you little spot and let a boat come upalong side and ping you then i think you are a little slow .Wouldnt'you move away and come back later .These pingers are everywhere and you just make it easy pickings sitting there hoping they won't come and ping you LOL I think you need to get a little more protective of you so called spots .if you sit and let them ping you then don't cry about it.....
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wadetolley
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clap..clap
You took the words right out of my mouth Paul...Southpoint..would hate to see you driving a prawn trawler mate, everyone would catch all your prawns, before you new what happened!
tim-o
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Exactly, paintin your boat
Exactly, paintin your boat blue can help a bit lol. No different to fishn a spot on a rockwall, catch a fish and then find someone right next to you, casting over your line, the world is full of fucktards, just gota be smarter than them
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
milsey
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One reason why i dont use
One reason why i dont use drift anchors.
diver albie
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haven't done it,
but we we dive and have on ocassions dived shite to advoid diving our marks when people have been fishing it to advoid these sort of accusations
tim-o
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Cant divers just turn up, put
Cant divers just turn up, put the flag out and then anyone within the 50meter zone has to move?
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Paul G
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LOL you must be joking
LOL you must be joking
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tim-o
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Na, Me and me mate were
Na, Me and me mate were fishin a spot (trolling live baits on downrigger) when a dive boat turned up and my mate gave them space, hes a master diver himself, wasnt happy but said thats the rules????
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
NOHA
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Same
Had that happen myself. Fishing a small lump pulled up wind to check the drift line and another boat comes and starts circling arround. Spots the little bit of ground turns arround up goes the dive flag and tells me to piss off.
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Paul G
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I have offen gone towards a
I have offen gone towards a boat that is close to ground I fish to see if they are on it or close .(Some people don't know how close they have come to some bloody good spots) If not on it I come back later .I am not pinging them and don't give a shit if they think i am .I to have had boats ping me but I wasn't quick enough to move away.shit there is so much ground out their ,you just need to find it
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Vinesh87
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Paul G, Very true but i have
Paul G, Very true but i have been pinged swimming 30 metres back to my boat after a dive. It is very annoying and dangerous when they come so close with a dive flag up.
Paul G
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I dive too and yes
I dive too and yes frustrating but that is how it is .I have heard boats go overhead and guess they are pinging me .I also give my gps co to marine rescue so i guess anyone with a pen and paper can write them down.....If the are that keen then they can have it and i will put it on the forum for every one .they can share it with the other fifty boats.
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tim-o
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Cool, just the metro spots
Cool, just the metro spots for now please
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merdel12
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if u insist. me too please :)
if u insist
me too please :)
Paul G
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I lost all my marks two weeks
I lost all my marks two weeks ago .(LONG STORIE) the lot exmouth, local all gone im starting a clean slate. not happy jan.Could be a good thing as the last three trip have done well .
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big john
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WTF
Not happy I bet, hope you don't resort to pinging Paul. LOL
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c'mon paul....lolsomeone with
c'mon paul....lol
someone with your experiance dont have a back up of some sort???
must be so all them new deckies dont get to see them eh
p.s hows the new tub going....sorry to steer away from the orig post.
Paul G
Posts: 5215
Date Joined: 12/12/07
Had them on sd card and put
Had them on sd card and put it in the new garmin bad move the garmin scrambled the files .Gave the card to tailor marine and they can't get the info back .shit happens.No other back up.Good thing i have a photogrphic memory.I wish.
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fisho-ron
Posts: 2539
Date Joined: 26/09/09
im sure you got a good idea
im sure you got a good idea were to look!!
Lamby
Posts: 3145
Date Joined: 04/08/09
Files scrambled! Your kidding
Files scrambled! Your kidding & bizarre the info couldn't be retreived
Rob H
Posts: 5847
Date Joined: 18/01/12
another way to back up your
another way to back up your plotter is bring up the screen with the lists of marks (such as on Navman) and photograph it.
Pain in the ass to put it back but at least its not lost.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
southpoint
Posts: 47
Date Joined: 30/03/11
Interesting Reading
Thanks all, good points of view, don't agree with some peoples thoughts but it takes all sorts i guess.
In regard to the rules there are none but some common decency should prevail and everyone can get some fish and have some fun. It's more the attitude of i don't give a toss and I will just do what i want that is frustrating. If people make a genuine mistake or are not across what is considered the "right thing to do" most people are pretty good about it as long as you apologise and move away.
If any one does not know, for my 2 cents, you should always
See you out there ...... just not next to me! :)
bod
Posts: 2321
Date Joined: 03/05/06
sharing your spot
pigdaddy
Posts: 39
Date Joined: 25/07/12
thats bloody insane not to
thats bloody insane not to mention rude and unsafe!.
if it got THAT bad I'd be putting out on the megafone to back off or you'll scare off the fish.
beau
Posts: 4117
Date Joined: 24/01/10
Its a shame that when its
Its a shame that when its like that it still doesn't scare the fish. I got desperate and did it last year, never again, we didn't catch anything but it just doesn't feel right
Bradlze
Posts: 96
Date Joined: 06/02/12
but I have to ping you guys
but I have to ping you guys because I have NFI what im doing or where Im going
nor have a I even caught a dhufish in the last 7 months of owning my first boat
:Disclaimer after my sob story - Ive never pinged anyone before
sea-kem
Posts: 15101
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Don't feel bad Bradlze I
Don't feel bad Bradlze I still have days of catching f'all and have quite a few spots pegged. But I'm always looking for new ground. Flat coral can be very fruitful with patience.
Love the West!
Browny
Posts: 316
Date Joined: 04/01/11
Go night fishing more
Go night fishing more often.....no effing pingers then!!
I just love Exmouth: Its a quaint little drinking town with a fishing problem!
Brucesta
Posts: 1721
Date Joined: 29/05/09
ping me at your own peril as
ping me at your own peril as i'm probably not catching much anyway. You guys need to catch on and do it the civil way with your yank tank 25ft boat and your radar cranking, safely ping away from 12Nm, well out of range for a sinker to hit your bow.
Don't give them the chance, if your on a good bite you've probably got a few already just get out of there and fish elsewhere for 20 mins, he may follow you but it's the perfect chance to be smashing a few beers back and waving to them very nicely as you have no rods in your hand.
Now i need to ask those who billfish around here, how do you feel when another boat see's you hooking up to a few because you've found agood bait ball and proceeds to drop in near you to join the action, a normal day you're probably ok with it as your releasing them anyway but come comp time (like this weekend) are we all so civil? geez i have a photo of 17 boats on one massive bait ball last year and it didn't worry anyone by the looks of it...
also got pinged last week by some tourists off 40 mile, saw my boat and turned straight for me and parked off the back, we weren't catching anything anyway so i didn't care but by the looks of it he didn't have a sounder anyway as the coutry off there is all the same, reefy and shoaly in varying depths he would ahve seen heaps of fish on his trip out. so if you see a Blue Cruisecraft 625 Outsider swing on by i'm probably not getting much anyway...
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pricey10
Posts: 486
Date Joined: 07/01/12
Billfish seem to be a
Billfish seem to be a diffrent kettle of fish brucesta I only know about Dampier but we all fish the same grounds apart from the guys who know what there doing. most times ive been out and there are heaps of boats in one area. We had a hook up in the last comp then about 6 boats were on us real quik I thought it was quite funny and had no problem with it and if i seen them hooked up later i would return the favour no doubt.
But diffrent story when it comes to bottom bouncing I just get the helll out of there as soon as i see a boat coming in my direction
Karratha. WA
Brucesta
Posts: 1721
Date Joined: 29/05/09
it's a strange one for sure
it's a strange one for sure but hey if we're all catching a few then it's a good thing i guess but in theory it's the same practice, sure the bait moves but i know i'd be a little annoyed if i've put the effort in, found a left of field bait ball, and got a few in only to have people saying "that flukey bloke in the Cruisecraft is getting a few, quick troll over there and set the livies out"
This situation of course would never happen haha
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crasny1
Posts: 7009
Date Joined: 16/10/08
Just the thought
Lets just all ping the hell out of everyone, and then it will be all cool out there.
But dont come near my special Coral trout spot!!!!!
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rockoe_
Posts: 140
Date Joined: 02/09/10
Yeah I have that same
Yeah I have that same problem every snapper season in the sound I'll be fishing one of my spots and then about 70 other boats come fish on top of me and steal me spots lol
Rob H
Posts: 5847
Date Joined: 18/01/12
haha-stay 500 meters away
haha-stay 500 meters away even if transiting someone said above! I dont live metro but if Im spinning over to the islands Id go 100-200 meters to avoid a wake but thats it.
And for the record if you see a well used Trailcraft at the islands you are way more than welcome to pop over and say gidday whether fishing or not if your intentions are good and courteous. Always good to know whos about especially outside cray season.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
scottland
Posts: 3040
Date Joined: 10/05/10
Haha great one on Saturday
On saltwater charters we were jigging in 45 -50 meters of water then some muppet who has no clue parks 30 meters away in our drift then threw the anchor over the side what the hell
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milsey
Posts: 1462
Date Joined: 22/08/07
Saltwater aint exactly
Saltwater aint exactly angels.
JohnF
Posts: 2841
Date Joined: 07/07/10
Agree with milsey!! We have
Agree with milsey!! We have wintnessed a Salty Ping first hand.
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till
Posts: 9358
Date Joined: 21/02/08
I'll second that, we watched
I'll second that, we watched him steaming along, turn onto one rec boat, then turn onto us, then change his line and head back to port =(
JohnF
Posts: 2841
Date Joined: 07/07/10
We have gotten much smarter
We have gotten much smarter these days and move at the sight of a boat when on good spots that are unmarked. Sometimes I have to resort at charging straight at the boat if they have homed in on your scent. Usually stuffs them.
Biggest surprise for me is the attitude of a few really nice blokes I have met lately. On questioning where they fish, two replies have been "oh, we just look for other boats and lob in between them". This is from Otherwise good blokes. They just dOnt understand the etiquette and how much work goes into some of the spots the more intrepid of us find.
Pingers shit me, but take Paul G's approach.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
topwell
Posts: 26
Date Joined: 12/07/12
if your spot is that good
if your spot is that good you would have your limit pretty quick and be out of there.
fishy fingers
Posts: 1719
Date Joined: 28/04/07
what about a flag
we could have a say.....a little kitten if we are freindly an aproachable and dont mind people coming up to say helo
and a Skull and cross bones if we are miserable arogant gits who think everyone within sight is a pinger!
Browndog
Posts: 595
Date Joined: 10/04/12
Love It!
Haha, cracker idea Fishy. Not sure about the kitten, perhaps just a picture of a fish, or at any rate something just a bit less "Nancy" than a kitten!
Great idea, and well written!
Browndog.