What reel for rays???
Submitted by Henri dcdc on Fri, 2010-06-18 19:55
hey guys
First post and i really like this site
I go fishing for rays at woodies but i dont really have a descent over head reel for it does anyone have any suggestions about what i could get ???
cheers
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Leemo
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theres about 10 posts on
theres about 10 posts on this topic from the last 2 months, use the search function to find them.
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Welcome henri, good to see
Welcome henri, good to see you have finally posted
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Welcome henry. another rayer
Welcome henry.
another rayer :P
i personally use a Daiwa Sealine 50SHK it hold approximately 600m of 12.5ks mono matched with a 10ft low mount 3-4pz rod.
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If i had the money $$$ i
If i had the money $$$ i would do my best to get the
Shimano Torium 50 --- with 600m of 50lb braid and the rest 0.60mm mainline.
with a nice 12ft low mount 8-9oz weight.
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Leemo
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to start henri, what is your
to start henri, what is your budget? this will dictate the quality of gear and the responses you will get on here.
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Also To what size are you
Also To what size are you chasing?
Casting or Kayaking, ballooning, livebaiting, sliding?
that will matter a lot on what reel you get.
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Henri dcdc
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well i dont really have a
well i dont really have a certain way of fishing for rays i change around just depends on weather and conditions you know what i mean?
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cheers
thanks for all ya help well my budget so far is a $300
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This would be perfect for
This would be perfect for me, maybe perfect for you?
http://www.anglerswarehouse.com.au/product_detail.asp?productnospaces=shimano_torium_50_330
Torium 50 for $269
or the Trinidad 50 that is a very good reel for large fish and known in South Africa as a very strong reel.
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Henri dcdc
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yer tru, do you know the
yer tru, do you know the shimano tyrnos its a good reel but it is mainly a boat reel ay, and thanks you are a big help =D cheers io but do i have to pay for postage??
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henri, toriums can also cast
henri, toriums can also cast quite well. i suck at casting overheads and baitcasters, but i can cast the torium without getting birdsnests etc.. hold a lot of line too. dont buy online, buy from local shops, like The Tackle Shack or Oceanside.
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agrreed,, NEver let Leemo
agrreed,, NEver let Leemo cast your O/H nearly made that mistake :D
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Torium 30 or 40 would be the go actually 50 is just to big if you dont have the power to cast it.
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adamsmith84
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get a
tld its not best looking but its a reliable reel and thats all ya need for rays, its not like your chasing marlin
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yer thanks david
yer thanks david
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ok stupid question but why
ok stupid question but why an overhead ?? id be using a alvey as there are a hell of a lot less problems and it can cast better if needed .. and cheaper ... jmo
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Why chase rays? I hate
Why chase rays? I hate catching the damn things.
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why not a 9500 spinfisher or
why not a 9500 spinfisher or a finnor offshore both hold heeps of line are one of the toughest reels ever built and cost under 200 bucks
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Daniel Y
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agreed with dale. why on
agreed with dale.
why on earth do you blokes wanna target rays?
they are boring as hell. i'd rather catch herring tbh.
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2nd that
spinfisher is the toughest spinning reel that wont cost you over $200 but people just catch rays for the fun of it i would much rather target big mulla like diehards and snapper
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that mulloway was a bycatch
that mulloway was a bycatch from fishing for rays :)
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Catching rays is
Catching rays is different.
no head shakes etc.
i dont know why i ONLY target them on my big rod its lets say for a bit of fun,
as i know i wont be going mullawaying in the swan or at moore or going deep sea for dhuies snapper and sambos so i just say lets get some rays for a bit of fun as its only down the road from where i live.
and IMO O/H is far better than Alvey. And the Penn 950SSm is $210 and u can nealry get twice as much line on that fomr a Torium 40-50 and it costs about $50 more.
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why?
well JMO having a huge dead weight on the end of your line for casting is going to hurt on the release of a spin reel or alvey, and if using braid may lacerate a bit from the force of the cast?
But O/H just need a tight thumb on the spool and just after it reaches the top you release your thumb. then thumb the spool every so often to avoid backlash or birdsnest.
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after using alveys Feral,
after using alveys Feral, they really wear you out fast on the bigger rays. i love my spinfisher and virtually the only workout it gets is from rays and the rare fish. as eric said, its just down the road and its 100 times better than being stuck at home in front of the idiot box. personally i will continue to fish for them no matter what anyone says. ok daniel, how can you say a herring is more fun than a stingray? id much prefer targetting stingrays! there is always the chance of picking up a shark or snapper etc, so its all worth a shot!
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stingrays don't do anything.
stingrays don't do anything. they may slowly swim off and perhaps sit in the sand for half an hr if you are lucky. the occasional eagle ray may go for a run, but apart from that, yeah not very exiting. i don't love herring or anything, but hey i'd rather target them then rays. at least they do something. they'll smash a lure almost the same size as them and at least jump a little.
hey, nothing wrong with catching rays if it gives you enjoyment, sure is better then being at home in front of the tv like you said, just for me personally I wouldn't buy gear specifically to target them and go out trying to catch them.
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Can tell you now mate they
Can tell you now mate they do not slowly swim off!
if the want to have a run they will
and nothing will stop them!!!
lol
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tru
you are so tru man they will just go if they want and you will not stop them
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Your not doing it right if
Your not doing it right if you get an eagle ray and it does nothing, I've had them launching out of the water on numerous occasions and is a great sight to see. Yes there are better things to catch out there but if theres nothing around a ray turns a boring session into an excellent session. As for the question I use my penn 6/0 senator on them and its never missed a beat and before you say you can't cast them I can cast mine with a 6 ounce sinker and a whole scalie a good 50 metres. Most of the time they aren't that far out anyway.
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reel
mate look at the tld 20/40 or the speed master , both these reels are bullet proof and have stood the test of time ........ if pulled well over 10 tons of sharks and ray's on mine and they still going strong . Dont get caught in the hype the fish in the metro are only little , u dont need a km of line on your reel to stop them ..... 450-600m is plenty from shore. Once u start fishing for rays and sharks as sport fishing and you travelling the coast looking for the big one , thats when u may want to upgrade to the toriums / saltiga's . Be careful when looking at the torium 50 as these are not easy to cast - and would be a total waste of $'s if your small in stature and haven got the right rod to go with it . O/heads need to be loaded and balanced on the right rod to get to get the full rewards out of using them.
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oi henri get the daiwa
oi henri get the daiwa saltist 50 like me but out of torium and tyrnos i would get a torium 50 better for casting
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dunno where you shop diehard
dunno where you shop diehard but we sell the 950spinfisher for 160 and off shores for 190
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have any of you guys eaten
have any of you guys eaten the stingray flaps ?
i knew a old guy who reconed they where nice eating?
getting the bottom line final answer from a bunch of blokes that use false names and put smiley faces at the end of paragraphs is not the best place in the world to get the information you seek.
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Only Ealge Ray... But dont
Only Ealge Ray...
But dont bother.
if you do want to eat one. cut the wings of and soak them in milk for 24hrs.
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I don't even bother soaking
I don't even bother soaking them, I just make fish curries with mine. They are also nice deep fried.
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just a question Skrewloose
just a question Skrewloose .. how many problems have you had with the finnor offshores ?? when i was in exmouth last month the crew i was with broke 2 old penn SS's and replaced them with offshore 850's .. . they broke both of them in 3 days of only light fishing. 1 handle fell off first and then the drag knob griped the spool and busted the braid the next day ,, the second reels handle actually snapped right off. both reels where fixed but you would never find me buying one.
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thats strange feral i have
thats strange feral i have never had a problem or heard of a problem with them mind you i have only caught rays on mine and not very big ones either
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdbV7XQtuY
Done the job for this guy. Not a bad effort from the beach ;)
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stingray are strong so you need a strong reel
i wouldnt spend much at all on a reel especially for jettys and stuff because they get banged around you know
i had a penn 220 although i dont reccomend it becasue i reckon its cheap shit it has caught rays around 15 or 20 kios no problem
maybe a shimano speedmaster if u want a reel that can cast,
otherwise id get a shimano tld
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I often target big rays,
I often target big rays, around the 200 mark. I have managed them on my saragossa 18000. but id recommend at least a torium 30. lots of line and you can cast them!!
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200kgs :O :O
200kgs :O :O :O
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yer im chasing a torium 30.
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200 mark?? kgs or lbs
200 mark?? kgs or lbs
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lbs lol. my uncle has caught
lbs lol. my uncle has caught them 200kg tho lol.
I got a good sized eagle ray last night, I got that just on a shimano saragossa. was good fun ;D
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Where did you go?
Where did you go?
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just to south beach man
just to south beach man