Perth fishing show
Submitted by Colin Hay on Thu, 2010-01-21 10:29
I know that I raised this idea quite awhile back and nothing came of it (mainly because an international partner pulled out), but my company is once again considering staging a fishing show in Perth (thanks to a lot of pushing from me).
I am trying to get feedback from Fishwrecked members on:
1) whether they think a Perth fishing show is a good idea?
2) what would be the best time of the year to stage it?
3) Any thoughts on a good venue?
4) What they would like to see if we did stage a fishing show?
5) and any other general suggestions?
Many thanks, Colin Hay
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its a good idea all
its a good idea
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great idea mate wellu can go
great idea mate
wellu can go tailor fishing and show us some of ur secets ok mayb not haha.
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haha, im. pretty sure colin
haha, im. pretty sure colin is referring to a fishing "expo", not a fishing tv show ;)
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South of Perth yacht club
South of Perth yacht club would be a good venue. Means you could use the water if you get a boat partner. It is fairly central.
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Thanks guys
South of Perth Yacht Club is one of the venues we are considering boyscout.
We will definately be looking at running a number of fishing talks at the show - and I am hoping to involve a few Fishwrecked members.
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I don't think he is talking
I don't think he is talking about a TV show fellas...
More like an exhibition show...
So ideas like... Soft plastic fishing demonstration, inc. rigging, sp types, techniques and a big glass tank to cast into. Distance casting / accuracy casting competitions... ect...
Good date: this weekend.
Good location: Frematle Esplanade Park over the road from freo fishing boat harbour.
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are some people
are some people confused??
Do you eman fishing show as in TV show, or fishing show as in like the boat show? :)
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Sorry Guys I should have mader it a bit clearer
Yes it would be an exhibition, with fishing related competitions, demonstrations, etc.
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oh my bad lol cheers danno
oh my bad lol
cheers danno
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Since they are considering
Since they are considering south of perth yacht club id say it would be a exhibition.
Surely get golden ponds on board. donate the fish.
Perth water tanks for the tank.
http://www.perthwatertanks.com.au/
bit too much?
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casting and interactivity
Interactivity is the key, something to keep the crowd keen not just walking around aimlessly. As John has said above, casting pools, demonstrations, a few nice boats etc.
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On
Right on the money Adam..Interactivity is the go. I dont want to watch steve starling casting a lure..i want to have a bloody go. I want to stand right next to someone doing a fillet demo..no 10m away or watching it on the bigscreen.
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Venues
South of Perth Yacht Club probably wouldnt be suitable, not enough room, not enough parking. I go there most wed nights for Twighlight sailing.
I would suggest one of the parks along Bicton Foreshore towards Pt Walter. McCallum Park, Sir James Mitchell Park, Burswood, Langley Park, Botanical Gardens, Kings Park. Also some of the parks around crawley nedlands way.
I think a dedicated fishing show would be good, as the camping/4wd ones are ok, but broad spectrum. What I would say is critical is having several demonstration areas running different activities throughout the day.
My reasoning for this is that all of these events seem to be about commerce(thats fine, I know you need to make money) but it has to be good value for a whole day, not cost of entry and then get in and all there is are retail outlets down there. If you go to the 4wd and camping show, I would guess 90% of the exhibits are retail shops. I would like to see maybe 50% stores and 50% demonstrations/information outlets.
I agree with John, Rigging demonstrations, sp/hb/jigs/squid jig/lure use and techniques. This wouldnt need to be a huge tank with fish, just an aquarium to demonstate how the lure swims when used with the rod technique.
For rigging, small demo areas with a projector and a small seating stand so people can clearly see what they are tying, coupled with a takehome brochure.
Demostrations of release weight use. Catch care, fish filleting and preparation of catch for cooking info, cooking demonstrations.
Invite Recfishwest, and give short talks about the state of our fisheries, future changes. Also the PGFC, WADivers etc. Invite Fisheries Officers, have presentations on species ID, their role in our fisheries.
I saw at the claremont showgrounds they once had a fly casting comp with a target, an exclusion area to protect people, basically if you got it closest to the target was an hourly prize or something.
I dunno, Im sure I will think of more.
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Thanks Adam That would be what I would really want to see
I would also like to have various experts holding discusions about various fishing techniques, etc.
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Fishing expo
Colin, i will assume you mean like an Expo similar to the 4WD Show, Perth Motor Show, Mandurah Boat show?
1) whether they think a Perth fishing show is a good idea? YES.
But, depends if you mean good for you, as in profitable/vendor support? Or good as in ticket sales/public attendance/feed back.
2) what would be the best time of the year to stage it?
Leading into Spring/Summer. If you were seeking the support of other Vendors then i would think that Spring/Summer would be their most profitable period, hence they would want to be out promoting their products and services in time for this.
3) Any thoughts on a good venue? Just for sheer size, public access and flexibility, PCEC. Obviously you couldnt really demonstrate much fishing here. Otherwise, Freo, Hillaries.
4) What they would like to see if we did stage a fishing show?
Product demos, sales, advice etc. Products could range from fishing, camping, boating, charters, keeping fish domestically, commercial fishing job opportunities, even the fisheries Dept could jump on board to promote fishing for future, etc.
5) and any other general suggestions?
Colin not sure what 'your company' does. You could tender the sponsorship out to a major sponsor (BCF, Ranger, etc) and smaller sponsors (media eg Sunday Times, Western Angler, ARB etc) for financial support.
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You are right on the money there EasySnag
These are the sorts of things we have been tossing over in initial discussions. I don't think we would go to the PCEC because of the parking issue and it also doesn't lend itself to demonstrations.
My company is split into two sections - a magazine publishing company and an exhibition and conference organising company.
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Finally
As a keen angler I have been waiting for a show dedicated to fishing. I have attending many "Perth Boating ,Fishing & Diving" shows over the years only to find very little in relation to fishing.
Best time - during the Dermersal Ban (Oct/Nov/Dec)
Items at show - demonstration on rig making, knots, what rig for what species, best gear for locations and species, demonstration on how to get the best from you sounder/chart plotter, safety items such as fishing of rocks, safety at sea( sea rescue happy to be involved), latest technology and fishing gear, bag limits for different parts of the state and species. Open forum with specialist in their field where the public can ask questions not covered in the show.
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Spot on Iceman
These are the things I would like to see also.
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Fishing Show
A great idea. Our fishing club would love to take part. A great way to promote our club. Im pretty sure other land based fishing clubs would be pretty keen too.
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We plan to involve clubs like yours Carolyn
My idea is that it would be a community event that brings together anglers of all ages and experience to learn about and see new things.
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Cheap Space
Colin after organising heaps displays for Boat shows all around Australia the big thing is cheap space. To get business and clubs involved it has to be done so everyone can afford it and the more business and clubs that are there will make it ten times better for the crowds that you are trying to attract.
The venue has to be big enough but people will travel if they believe that it is good value for money, things to learn, new products to look at and most of all some bargins to be had.
You will find thats why alot of shows have combined different products eg boats and 4wd's as it attracts a bigger crowd and gets more business involved to pay for the floor space
It sounds like a great idea and certainly something that would take of in WA so long as the relevant business and clubs get behind it. Good luck I will pay my $10 bucks to get in the door.
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Thanks Blacknightz
Cost will be critical. Thankfully, our company (which has been organsing exhibitions and conferences for a range of different industries for 30 years) is not one of those companies that want to charge an arm and a leg for an expo space. I couldn't believe some the charges I have seen for boat shows.
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Maccullum park,,folks can
Maccullum park,,folks can throw a line in as well
Grab Albee Mangles and tell him he has to give a talk on kayak fishing , he was the best presenter at the Mandurah boat show so he has the experince.
What about a casting comp
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Thanks Colin
Yes people like Brett are exactly whom I hope to have participate.
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We can organise a few kayak
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Thanks mate
I knew I could count on you.
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collin great idea! i agree
collin great idea! i agree with all the things posted and would like to add my 2 cents worth! i think there needs to be a really big focus on a section of the show being totally aimed at the youth of perth the next generation fisherppl. i think that this section should have something for all age groups weather it be something like colouring in for the tiny tots then maybe a casting workshop maybe a catch tank and even rigging and knot tips for the older kids. it just an idea but i think the kids miss out on a lot of things simly because adults dont involve them enough! id be happy to be able to take the whole family to a show like this! maybe even a section just for girls (we have 3 daughters!). i would also like to see some pointers on cooking and prep of fish its always nice to have new recipes! hey whatabout a fish based masterchef that would be a laugh. anyways these are my opinions thanks adam
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flash as You are a chap after my own heart
The youngsters are the future fishers and I like nothing better than trying to help keen young anglers.
If it goes ahead I can guarantee you that the kids will be well looked after.
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Have some sessions on the go
Have some sessions on the go continuously for how to read your sounder / fish finder. Tricks n Tips, that sort of stuff. I know there's plenty of people out there who would be interested in this, including me.
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Thanks Dale
I am sure the sounder companies would jump at a chance to run demonstrations.
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Or chase up Ryan T, he's a
Or chase up Ryan T, he's a guru on them as well as everything else piscatorial.
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nice idea
but if you do it yearly, it will run out of steam pretty quickly I reckon.
A lot of those shows (boat show, 4WD show, caravan shows etc) become very same same after a short while and then attendances drop and they amalgamate the shows for economics.
Theoretically I reckon its a great idea, but practicality and economically it wont be a viable long termer IMO.
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Split it up into styles of
Split it up into styles of fishing, jigging, freshwater, billfish, trolling, shore based, fly. People can go where they want.
You could try in a regional area like Busso. I think people will travel and make a day of it.
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venue
wouldn't it have to be in a lock up venue for exhibitors' security, assuming it is over a weekend?
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I think there has been some
I think there has been some great suggestions for content.. Col you could approach your Oceanside / Tackle Shack and vendors like that who I am sure would love the exposure for selling specials ect -plus they have guys in there like Ryan that have a wealth of knowledge and could do their own talks and displays ect. I think it is critical for this to work that you have a website that can not only promote the show and show timetables of events ect but also make it easy for exhibitors to register for attendance the easier it is to be a part of it the more people will be willing to get involved.
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just an idea for a venue.
just an idea for a venue. try the showgrounds . sounds like a great idea. as someone mentioned aim for the time during the ban. for demos i would rather see the small tackle stores get involved rather than the big chains but thats where the $ are.
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i personally think this
i personally think this would be a great idea. one off or an annual event i would go every year! i always go to the boat and fishing show just to see if they actually do get anything to do with fishing by chance...but usually there isnt much as you know.
something that would draw alot of ppl aswell is if the tackle shops do get involved and hold some decent specials of decent products. i found that at the boat and fishing show they have the lure bins where they are cheap but they are the lures that nobody ever buys. if they had decent products then i rekon it would be a hit!
But either way i'd be there. Best of luck!
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Thanks all for your enthusiasm
To be honest, for it to be a success we would need to have the involvement of a whole range of tackle shops, tackle distributors, tackle companies and of course, the companies who make all the gear that is associated with fishing such as sonar gear, coolers, sunglasses, etc.
But most importantly, it has to be a show for anglers.
I personally think a timing that would see the show staged towards the end of the ban when everyone is fired up to go fishing and as close to Christmas, when people are looking for new gear to buy someone, or themselves, would be the ideal time.
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Venue you could try is
Venue you could try is Fremantle Sailing Club. Large grassed area, water frontage , gates and existing security, plus they often get involved in shows of this style of nature..
On the downside. Be prepaired for some nagative attitudes from retailers. If its cheap or even free you may get support but most companies these days (especially in the fishing/marine industry) simply arn't making the profit they need to be able to pay for extra events in the callender year.
I love the idea though and wish you all the best.
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Great Idea
I am in support of a Local Fishing show / Ehibition.
Best time of the year? Spring
Venue: Metro
Like to see: All things related to Landbased and offshore.
Interactive displays would be a bonus and keep things interesting.
Kayak fishing would also be highlight for me
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be a little careful offering
be a little careful offering up peoples services without first consulting them :) IE: Ryan T. Understand he is very knowledgable and a top bloke, but maybe ask him first eh :)
I think targeting the 'fishing scene coule work real well. You can get support from local Boat builders and dealerships who offer vessels more directed at the fisherman.
2. If youre looking long term, think about varying the location each year.
3. a few mentioned get the local tackle stores along with specials etc... not sure how many of them would be keen to begin a price war with the competition right in the next tent. Suggest recon on that one too.
approaching the vendors is a cracking idea, especially if they have new products soon to be released, and may have demo equipment for such an event.
Fishing magazines... get these blokes onboard to promote and participate in the event.
Sea rescue im sure would like to have some involvement.
Club marine would be interested in the event aswell.
for signage promotion you could appraoch places like mackerel islands resort and other fishing resorts for site promotions.
GPS and Sounder vendors would be onboard im sure.
The list is endless :)
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I have been given the word that we can move forward
with seeing if the idea is viable.
Thanks for all of your input, and please keep it coming.
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Get Shimano JP to bring down
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fishing show
Think the venue has to be secure yet be on water for marine advertisers to be able to advertise their wares (boats, yaks) and with casting competitions etc, so a yacht club fills the bill, or the Sea Scouts at Matilda Bay, if they hire out their hall. Never-ending parking, jetty, foreshore...
With regard to Bodie's no 3 about tackle stores and price wars, competition is what retail business is about. Trade shows are all about businesses competing with each other and the public will flock if they think a bargain can be had.
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hey bod thats what i kinda
hey bod thats what i kinda mean
Some tackle or most shall i say would be selling the same products. There is only so cheap they could go before its not viable for them to be there. Obviously the follow on business would be something they would look at too.
when i priced sounders at the boat shows, i was going from retailer to retailer selling the same equipment, and basically wouldnt change their price. So im guessing they didnt want people to go 'ohh i got this price from here' and 2 and fro between tents.
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Thats just good salesmanship
Thats just good salesmanship Bodie.
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imo. your better off getting
imo. your better off getting the smaller tackle stores involved rather than the big chains. reasoning behind this is that the chain stores have the big $ and can outprice the smaller guys.this could be a good thing in some situations but the small stores are doing it hard already with so many chain stores around that have bigger buying power hence putting items out cheaper,also the small guys tend to have a lot more experience and knowledge on fishing styles , techniques and the product they sell. there are heaps around its just a matter of getting their support.
then you have all the other lines of gear involved in fishing from boats and land like , eskies, sounders , etc, etc
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