get ready to get screwed again on boat fees
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,25321320-2761,00.html
{Registration fees for boats less than 9.99m would increase from $124.30 to $223.10. Boats between 10m and 20m would be subject to an increase from $231.70 to $506.90.}
well thats almost double for my old tub.
And what does the government give me back..SQUAT!!!
3rd world refueling facilities around Perth...yes I have seen better in many 3rd world countries. With the fires at Rotto and other places, you'd think they would have upgraded refueling facilities and fire protection ( oh and I am qualified to comment, seeing I designed, installed and commissioned the refueling system for a naval port in 2004! with full fire protection)
then lets not start with lack of pens, public jetties to moor at for lunch on the Swan, or anywhere else in general.
Getting people on and off your boat around Rotto is a farce these days. You forced to beach your boat, as the two small areas you can get people on & off are utterly inadequate for the amount of boats in the area...
Maybe I need to buy a ferry to get service from the state...because Joe-boat-owner does not!!!
yes, my 5am rant for the day!
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wadetolley
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true
What about the poor guy that has a old tinny worth 1000 bucks..to register it for $223 is a laugh.....gov need money for there stimulis package i suppose!
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With increases like that,
With increases like that, the WA government needs to start providing better facilities.
If such an increase is happening, then the revenue must be guaranteed to be spent on recreational boating facilities.
Tony Halliday
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nothing more than a tax
nothing more than a tax collection means to pay for their other squanders....
your chap with a $1000 tinny, if it's under 5m will be paying around a $100 a year for the usage of it!!!!
people think cause you got a boat your rich!!! and there for need to be taxed more and more and more....
loads of people that are not rich have boats, some have built their boats by sweat, blood and tears over the years, to now be slogged huge fews every year.
I don't see caravan owners being taxed heavy...they luxury items, don't see grey-nomad motor-homes/buss's getting a 100% tax increase to cover for the road stop sites etc they want...
We pay already to use a ramp and car-park.... every time we go out!!!at most major ramps around the metro area.
we pay for mooring fees at Rotto, nothings free their either.
What free jetties or wharf space does this DPI offer to you????
how about gofer tax to cover all the lanes and ramps for the granny gofer riders on their little scoots around town...maybe they need a tax too...
and all those bloody baby only parking bays... they should pay tax to for the extra sprogs they bring into the world and taking up parking spaces .... :-)
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UncutTriggerInWA
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That's democaracy for you...
The people of WA have spoken I'm afraid and now we see the results. If we are forced to tollerate razor gangs etc going through essential services departments like Health and Police well then forget about any increase in services for the struggling boaties out there. Perhaps we should also talk about the hikes in electricity etc.
Personally, I think you are showing some degree of insensitivity when you bring the pensioners and young mothers and their so called "sprogs" into this topic. I support your views with respect to tarrif hikes but I don't support statements about elements of society that really do struggle or have in fact earned the right to quality accessibility services.
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that was me sarcastically
that was me sarcastically asking who is next??? when do they stop double dipping on tax's.
I would prefer we had no tax's on people over 64, they earned their right to retire with what they have saved and worked for..
How many people do you know in their late 60's with a good old tub, 8 to 10m long, lovingly looked after and servicing their sea-nomad life style, yet they going to crack over 150% increase in their license fees on their boat.
ok, I'll let the gofer's off the hook, if they stay off FAST LANE,...
lol
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UncutTriggerInWA
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LOL Tony
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Rick
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More Cost
Could accept the hike in fees,if I could see the justification for them. To tax people purely on the fact they have a boat is wrong. Like most We have worked bloody long and hard to be able to afford our boat, paying a heap of tax on the way.
Give us something back in return to see where our fees are going................
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Dreamweaver
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Crikey!
That IS a substantial increase proposal.
Wade, remember, the stimulous package is a Federal Govt initiative, this is a (WA) State Government Grab. '$6 million in additional revenue' - just how much of that will we see in better facilities - I won't hold my breath.Unless it's a big tinny (>5m), the charge could (remember it has to be ensorsed by cabinet and gazzetted yet) go from $63.40 to $96.40.Still, a whopping 50% increase.
This can't help boat sales and associated bausiness's. Who, generally, are suffering from diminished sales/consumer interest already.
My wife works for DPI - looking forward to to an almost 100% increase in her salary - yeah right!
Oh, BTW, hands up in here who's a 'rich' boat owner - oops! Me arms won't work.
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jersey
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Read My comments
Hi Collin,please have 5/10 minutes to read my verbal long drawn out threads but if you do feel strongly and agree that we the ordinary person who happens to enjoy the ocean gets shafted jersey
Tony Halliday
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lets all stone
lets all stone Dreamy!!!
it's his wife's fault at DPI...also he catches too much fish..
stone him
stone him
stone him!!!
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Dreamweaver
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LOL Tony
You've got to be kidding mate, if it was due to my wife's salary increase, it would cost each of us an extra $0.0000555
As for too many fish, I don't think so!
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carnarvonite
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Pay Back
Now its pay back time for us boaties having to support the libs promise of 25%of royalties from mining going to the country areas via the NCP from the last election.They cannot all find the 3% savings so its got to come from somewhere----US!!!
AND they hope we will have forgotten it before the next election
Being a pensioner we get a diccount on 1 x vehicle licence but nothing on boat rego.It is going to hurt everyone but probably the ones who can least afford it the most
Stoinka
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Dont Pay.
Dont pay the licence fee, leave your boat in the shed, get a Yak.
Too Easy.
Jim
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That is so crap. just in the
That is so crap. just in the process of getting my shithouse tinny registered, skippers ticket and the lot. Its gonna cost about $500 just to get it to DPI specs. Its only worth $500.
Dont think im gonna worry about it now.
Im just gonna have to get a 6hp motor and chuck it on my row boat.
I got busted by fisheries the other day for no skippers ticket and the rest, whats shit is that the dickheads werent even interested in looking in the esky!
F**k em. I hate fisheries JMO
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Read My thoughts
as above JMO and if you agree then join me and hopfully others that feel we get the big end of the pineapple jersey
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Do the crime pay the fine,
Do the crime pay the fine, dont bitch about you were wrong
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Bodie
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yeah 100% increase is a bit
yeah 100% increase is a bit steep. none of that money will go back into the boating system.
But we did elect this government, so there are some consequences.(I didnt vote for them).
Luckily my registration expires in November, so i get another year before i have to pay the high registration.
HuggyB
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meh
so it $20/month instead of $10/month. In relative terms, its still bloody cheap.
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Watto069
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Not good but I just payed my
Not good but I just payed my rego this month so I'm pretty happy with that
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
Jim
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I wouldnt say its a crime, i
I wouldnt say its a crime, i dont care (too much) that I got busted, its just that they should be more interested in looking at your catch to see if your over your limit.
I had a proper read of the article and its not so bad for me, under 5m.
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jersey
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Its about time
You people all started to petition the minister ,the opposition minister and BIA I agree with you all about the way West Australians boaties are screwed in every angle possible,but ask your selves Why,If any of you care to look back I tried to get some support for the Hillary s marina and the fact that there are 241/247 bays for boat trailers and cars yet the general public are told to park there after 1200noon,and the cars are parked FREE,we boat owners pay . A history lesson,prior too Hillary s,we in the Northern suburbs had Two Rocks or the Lee win at Freemantle,then the Government along with a private development I think Lombardos or similar,built the Hillary s and the commercial side,unfortunately,the commercial side did not take off and so the Marine Harbors took over,Im not sure about who owns the commercial side but it is planning and stuff ups that run the boating facilities,The ramps at Ocean Reef came after and are the Shire of Joondalup and I say a bloody good development for the numeres boaties in the northern areas we then got Mindarrie one that was done by the developers and I believe is Private,but a very good facility the general public is allowed to use,so the state goverment has Not realy done much for trailer type boats in the past 25 years,have a look at the southern councills Cockburn Rocking ham I have seen these marinias and they are great,and once more,done I think by the local shires and good on them,At Hillarys the commercial developments do not pay one cent to the running of the marina,but they do pay the local Shire,I think its around 12million a year in land rates,yes the hillarys is a great family attraction,and drews hundreds or thousands of people over the summer,but what does that do for the boating public? we are batteling to park a car and trailer,for which we have paid the fee,we get damage to our trailers done by who? other boaties or people in cars that accidently hit the trailer or who drive through looking at the water and boats and not for a trailer and boat being reversed,Mr Bob Slieght Of boating and Skipppers course fame has seen 3 or 4 cars damaged in 2 hours one day,how long before someone accidently hits a boat or outboard leg,all those that use this marina know that these are not exagerations,also the verbal disputes and in some extreme cases fights over launching and reteiving extetera,When Hillarys was built there were possible 60thousand boat in WA now 90,000 not all in Perth but a lot are,Why does the harbour master and the department of planning and stuff ups not only allow but encoarage cars to park in One of a very limited recreational boating marinas in the noerther suburbs and NOT PAY to do so I suggest we get together,as a collective community and tell Simple OBrien the shove his propossed fee increase up his over inflated importance,I have meet with one of his advisers,and the Harbour master,they simply do not care a toss for the trailer boating community of Perths Northern areas, are they going to encrease the size and number of ramps at Hillarys I do not think so,they may build a new marina at Oceanreef at some future time but the problem is to-day at the ramps around Perths Northern areas and,what did we,the recreational boting public get from the last time these over paid idiots put up the price of boat regos,I am sorry if I put what I think of them down in this way but they do not have the balls to meet with individuals so I am not able to tell them to there face.I dare Simple Obrien to meet me and I promise to be gental to him if he does and I would ask,and invite any of you Fishwrecked members to come along and give your views on things,if you think the parking at Hillarys is good ok great I m the only one who does not
UncutTriggerInWA
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I agree with a lot of what you have said
in your own expressive way LOL. Good for you.
Everyting is about revenue raising and doing diddly squat in return with this government. Alana Mctearnan was the best DPI minister I have ever seen. She wasn't afraid to put back into the community and she wasn't afraid to tackle issues no one else would consider. If we all ran our own businesses like this government and showed little or no regard or respect for our customers (we are the Gov't paying customers) we woud all go out of business. This prick Barnett has a personality like a goldfish and doesn't give a rats arse about what we care about.
So let's not go out and play in the fuggin sunshine and stay home and play the Xbox because we can't afford to cover our costs. You can shove daylight saving right up Barnett's backside also. We don't need bright sunny evenings to play the Xbox. Oh, I may as well start eating big macs as well. Fish is too expensive to buy in the shop.
IMO of course
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Blank Cheque
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Club Members
Part of my idea of joining a Fishing club was to pay for the privillages of the use of a club ramp, rooms, washdown, parking ,security etc.
So do the club members get a discount due to them not requiring all that is being offered by the govement.
I can recall paying $40.00 not that long ago forget this new increase add the last one and this one togeth over the years then look at the increase %.
Yer right.
Its a bit late to head home early.
Its a little late to head home early
HuggyB
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Kevin 07?
Wrong government chief - its state, not federal making these changes.
Have a chat with your mate Colin Barnett.
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Blank Cheque
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All water uses to pay in time to come
I can recall my old man saying to be years back that it will come where people will have to pay to collect a load of firewood from the forrest. Narrr I said wont happen.
You go to get a load of wood again this winter from a public fire wood area and you will be paying again.
How long before all water uses have to pay?? Time will only tell.
Its a bit late to head home early.
Its a little late to head home early
carnarvonite
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Election
A few years before the last election we[Carnarvon] were promised a new boat ramp and jetty,this was in the forward estimates that had been passed by the Government,all signed sealed,plans drawn up and not delivered by Barnett and his cronies.As for parking at the ramp here,there is only space 15 for so cars and trailers the rest have to park alongside the road or over on the nearby wharf area.At last years Carnarfin competition there were over 50 boats logged on,some faced a cross country run just to get to the one concrete lane and one sand lane ramp and a jetty thats underwater on a spring tide.
The Gov hope we will forget all the rise in charges before the next election by doing it early in their term and letting it sit for the next 3 years,I don't think so
catchalittle
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Come on guys Rudd needs mor
Come on guys Rudd needs mor tipping dollars to spend at the gogo bars on his next tax funded trip to Thailand
Life is short so live it fast
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Nathan
carnarvonite
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Rudd???
Its got nothing to do with Rudd,this is a pair of home grown money grabbers by the names of Barnett and Buswell
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carpenter
if carps the tv [abc mined you] star and his wanker mate fat so ? saved some of the $billion of dollars raked in over the last 6 years instead of waisting it on who knows f*ucking what we wouldnt see any fee rise anywhere .
UncutTriggerInWA
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Sorry mate
IMO it doesn't matter a toss what happened in the past this gov't would do what they are doing now anyway. TAX TAX TAX. Always been the same with the libs.
We seem to be led on a belief that this state is broke and it's all because of the previous gov't. Look at the state of the state FFS. It's in great nick thanks to a lot of hard work from everyone, including the previous Gov't. Shit! Richard Court found it appropriate to spend millions on a monumental bell tower in his honour.
Back to the subject. This raise in boat registrations is a scam and just another tax IMO. Shame shame.
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catchalittle
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suppose they need to build
suppose they need to build anoher tower shaped like a dick in tribute to themselves
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Dick
dont forget the poly pipe was that a good one or what. 8 million on bell tower big deal .Who gave us that shit building on the edge of the river right in Perth. looks like the old Jandakot wool dumpers shed LOL
till
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Haha nice try. The Perth
Haha nice try. The Perth Convention and Exhibion Centre was approved by the Libs but don't let the facts get in the way of a bit of labor bashing. You can read about here.
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who cares who built it, now
who cares who built it,
now if they had a ramp next to it straight into the Swan, it would make a top boat store!!!
knock off at 4-30pm, be off St Georges terrace and in the water before 4-45pm...:-)
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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till
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Imagine what the pricks
Imagine what the pricks would charge for it though? Probably more than the $12 they sting you for down in East Freo. I'll stick to that one just over the windan bridge, off the side of the farmer freeway.
saltatrix
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80000 boats average $200 =
80000 boats average $200 = 16000000
10% of those may not be used during the year.
With the drastic increase in boating costs over a 5 years Ill never have a boat over 5 metres now.
I just cant justify the expense with things for instance like replacing an $800 EPIRB every 5 years.
Boating has become a joke in regards to cost.
Only GOD knows what the federal government takes in their 35 cents per litre tax and 10% GST on fuel that doesnt need roads by boats?
Tax on tax that is never returned to the industry. (GST on 35 cents tax)
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Bodie
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dont totally agree. Ofcourse
dont totally agree.
Ofcourse owning a boat shoudl come with costs associated.
an EPRIB costing $800 every year?? so your cracking the shits over spending a measly $800 on something every 5 years that could potentially save your life??
What about flares that expire?
$800 / 5 = $160 a year
160 / 12 = $13.00 a month. Dont really see the relevance.
EPRIBS will come down in cost anyway, once the demand on them slows (when production catches up to demand) the cost will drop.
I dont mind paying the additional for boat rego, as long as it goes to something worth while for boat users. IE Ramps, parking, whatever it may be.