Did anyone actually catch anything out wide today? (sat)
Submitted by Goodz on Sat, 2012-02-11 22:14
Please make me and hoookt feel better by telling us how you all caught nothing today out wide too!
We both missed our chances dropping a Dollie each and the only fish landed was a rat sambo and ytk.
Nothing at all landed on the demersal front. Just weren't on today for us.
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Rig
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Date Joined: 27/12/06
No!!!!!
2 x 20kg sambo, 1 undersize dhu and heaps of undesirables. Ugly conditions in a small boat and a deckie that spewed for 6 hours straight, I spent half that time trolling due to conditions.
Very average day
wrasse magnet
Posts: 126
Date Joined: 16/10/10
Managed four dhuies, only 1
Managed four dhuies, only 1 sized but was happy to get two on jigs considering the conditions. Also an underize pinky and some undesirables. On the way back had a troll behind the 3 mile trying for the elusive mr mac, 3 hook ups had the heart racing but turned out to be Bonito. Given the conditions was a reasonable day's fishing, even if we only got the one keeper.
Terry
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Date Joined: 04/12/05
Plenty
Plenty out there off Gero yesterday.
Caught heaps of everything except a Dhufish.
Bought home 2 Baldies and 2 Pinkies.
Trolled for about 5nm on the way in for zilch.
Water conditions were next to perfect. A great day to be on the briney.
greatrex
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managed to get an undersize
managed to get an undersize pinkie and 3 yellowtail kingfish. had a floating mulie out the back which i think a mackie (possibly a shark) that bit through the 80lb mono.
JohnF
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I got a nice dhu on jig on
I got a nice dhu on jig on rather uninspring ground in the shallower water near Rotto after we have up out deeper........Two good runs on troll for two pulled hooks........
Whose boat were you and Marco in Ben?
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Goodz
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We went out on my mates boat.
We went out on my mates boat. Hit the fads early for nothing, jigged the derwent for 1 rat sambo and then had the dollies come up to the boat for 2 hook ups and lost them both. Also tried the barges for nada and a few shallower spots south of rotto for only 1 rat ytk. That wind sure made it hard to hold bottom! A good 150+km travelled in the slop for nothing.
JohnF
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Jeeze, I feel better now!!!!
Jeeze, I feel better now!!!! At least we got a nice dhu that was nothing short of superb baked whole last night, fed 7 with a bit left over. We did a heap of trolling for nada except for one breif period where we finally came across bait and bang, two hits, but we could not be stuffed trlling around due to the slop and kept steaming homewards.
For the first time in 2 years we took Grayzees advice and took some squid along, and in desperation of not being able to effectively demersal jig in 40m, dropped some baited hooks down on heavy gear with huge sinkers.......apart from being no fun, all we did was catch two undersized dhu, one was dead on arrival, the other 50:50 at best...............and a few undersirables.....Not a fan of demersal bait fishing combined with the undersized release rules I must say. With the heavy gear you need to use, it is a struggle to bring up fish slow enough not the baratruma them totally....and we were very aware of this and tried to bring them up slow. The average punter with 50 lb braid whocranks the small fish up due to excitement is going to kill most undersized fish from +40m........."release" them, then drop down to try and get their 2 size dhu......some times I think it would be better if you were made to keep the first 2 dhu's you catch regardless of size and then you must stop demersal fishing.......very hard to know whats best but I felt like a killer yesterday on heavy bottom bashing gear........with light jigging, all but the very biggest dhu's go back very strongly and the by catch is very minimal.
We then went back to PE2 jigging and then got the size dhu. No more bait for me except for kg's.
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grayzeee
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hey John.sounds like a few
hey John.
sounds like a few did it hard and the dreaded north in the wind was evident.
I'm really out to try to bring something home in the esky every time now, with the new arrival and limited fishing time . After chatting with a few guys , I relented myself and started taking bait again.
I Always start on jigs and plastics, but as you know , you definately have days where artificials aren't getting touched , then i'll put down a drift bait or if the current is ripping , the token bottom bashing rig.
just found I was staying away from what worked on the day , due to the line of thinking that suggests your cheating by using bait.
I reckon you probably can get a wider variety of species more easily on bait too.
(you can still make it fun by not using a 15kg broomhandle and tld25)
I honestly don't think i've ever pulled up a fish that was dead on arrival. that's some fine skulldraggin'
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
fisho-ron
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i dont agree with that at all
i dont agree with that at all john.
i fish 99% of the time with bait, heavy braid and a reasonable sinker 16oz(heavier if needed) anywhere from 40-60mtrs, we have pulled many small dhu's up and only 1 or 2 needing the release weight, most swim of strong on there own.
even a few size dhu's have gone back strong because we have already got our 2 for the boat
for example would be the day recently out with ben(goodz) from memory 9 dhu's that day and i think we put 1 back on the release weight, and yes some were taken on jigs as well.
we got 3 dhu's on friday mate, all on bait in the 40-60mtr 1 kept and the other 2 released with no weight
nothing wrong with bait fishing mate but its still fun in better wether though.
each to there own i spose
cheers
JohnF
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Yeah, I was probably being
Yeah, I was probably being harsh and yes, I did skull drag the dhu up....very poor form I agree.....I was just not used to using heavy gear. Nothing against bait fishing, you can definatley cach a wider variety of fish, no doubt, and for sure bait works on days when artificals dont. Baits definatley come out for KG's, sand whiting and the like, and if I knew a good baldy spot I would fish bait for sure!!!!!!
But after all the mess on the boat, smelly hands and dragging lots of "undesirable" fish fromt the depths just to release them (and no matter what anyone says, dragging something up from 40m is not going to be that good for it) I guess I amd just more comfortable with artificials for metro demersals.
My point was not against bait, it was actually questioning the logic of the undersize fish release given that a lot of of them will die with the average punter ripping them up........not sure what the betr alternative would be??
I will be fishing bait again for sure, probably just not for dhuies.
Sorry for the offence, none intended.
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grayzeee
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not offended at all mate.the
not offended at all mate.
the mess and stink that bait fishing entails , can't be argued.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
jng
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We had a really slow day in
We had a really slow day in the 40's, only managed a 47cm dhui on the plastic and that was it. Didn't get much bites on the bait either.
Juneka
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4.5kg dhui
what crappy conditions! I scored a baby dhuie, and was getting despondent - but then my (female) passenger hauled in TWO nice sized baldies... Her fiance got a sweep and a skippy. I got a 4.5kg dhui and my first ever amberjack that was 4.8kg. Once again the girls just creamed the guys... I was well pleased with my catch... not so pleased with the sore muscles today from the pounding into the slop to get out there! And got home to a call from son who wanted to share his haul of crabs from the night before. A Saturday doesn't get much better than that. :)
Save the Whales! May as well - they won't fit in my catch bag!!!
biggerfish
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We went out behind swbank in
We went out behind swbank in the 50-60s fish weren't biting and we got sick of winding up the house bricks needed to hold bottom so we tried a few shallower spots ended up with two duhies a baldie and two 50cm king George pretty good day considering the conditions
Play hard fish harder
macca85
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on the water a 4, out to the
on the water a 4, out to the fads and back for one bull dolly. with that many boats out there surely someone raised a billy?
Trueblue3
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Double header of Snapper both
Double header of Snapper both just over 2kg @ the Club marine Fad. Dollie (lost) then headed back into Rotto because it was getting really rough and hooked up a 6kg Dhu...pics to come, not a bad day out on the Seafox.
A Bad Days Fishing Is Still Better Than A Good Day's Working....
Matt
abeldog
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Sorry Goodz and Marko
Caught a Dhuie, Tailor, Snapper, Baldie and Coral Trout.
Unfortunately after that I woke up a few km's past the wreck, howling NWester, fish on the sounder but not a bite.
Apart from the bite on my hand from Mr Tailor we caught earlier on and we were going to use as Live Bait.
Also glad we were not the only ones.
Makes me enjoy the good days even more.
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We Can All Dream of Things That Never Were and Ask Why Not!!"( RK )
glastronomic
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Georgy, the Greek Caterer in
Georgy, the Greek Caterer in dream land
http://youtu.be/lapnWW98A7E
sunshine
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Same out of Naturaliste
Nasty conditions with massive shows on sounder but one small dhu
MJ
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Date Joined: 23/06/09
OK
We caught 2 reasonable sized dhuies and a nice flathead on pirates south of Direction Bank, the wind was up from forecast and it was difficult to get much bottom time.
No luck mackie trolling in close along the reef.
The amount of boats lined up at 2 Rocks ramp at 5.30am was a sight to see, will post up some pics.
sea-kem
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Now I feel a whole lot better
Now I feel a whole lot better about spending 8 hours out there yesterday in the slop and wind catching stuff all. Very despondant at the moment as the Dhuie drought continues.....
Love the West!
JohnF
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Date Joined: 07/07/10
Exactly the same thing
Exactly the same thing happended last year about the same time......could the common theme be high water temperature? Last year there was a strong La Nina, same deal this year.
We saw a lot of good fish on the sounder on Saturday, at places where we have got some cracker fish in December, and could not entice a bite........very frustrating indeed but it does seem to be a common theme lately........funniest thing was we bagged a nice dhu on flat ground just drifting aimlessly blind jigging after we gave up resetting the drift due to the rediculously fast drift.......
I guess the good part is we get sub tropical species like mackerel, yellowfin tuna, dollies and marlin.
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Markie
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what hurts is i had my
what hurts is i had my dollie all the way boat side ready to be netted and it saw the net took off for another run and jump n hooks pulled. FMl first big dolly goneeeeeeeeeee.
Goodz
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Certainly feel a little
Certainly feel a little better hearing things were quiet for others... that dam wind I recon!
That was a big bummer losing your dollie so close to the boat Marko, next time i'll jump in with the net!
Markie
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sucked u didnt get urs in it
sucked u didnt get urs in it was hugeeee
Walker
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awfull day out. trolled for 5
awfull day out. trolled for 5 hrs for 3 bonito. tried the bottom for 3hrs and got 1 baldie 1 black ass 1 fox fish and 1 skippy. Wind was terrible. Best part sunrise.